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1 posted on 01/04/2009 3:26:58 PM PST by Clive
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2 posted on 01/04/2009 3:27:26 PM PST by Clive
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To: Clive
No, I would bet on hyper inflation first.
3 posted on 01/04/2009 3:28:39 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: Clive

Our Congress is spending us into third-world status and my vote has been rendered meaningless.


4 posted on 01/04/2009 3:28:40 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Clive

0bama and his policies will make the depression of the ‘30s seem like “The Lesser Depression”.


5 posted on 01/04/2009 3:30:11 PM PST by reg45
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To: Clive

Huh?

This editorial is one of the oddest pieces I’ve ever read. First it asks if we’re “heading” into a Depression, then uses a current data comparison to the last Depression.

It’s like asking, “Will the boy grow into a man?” And then answer, “No, because the child is much too small.”


6 posted on 01/04/2009 3:32:22 PM PST by durasell
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To: Clive
The odds of avoiding either a calamatous recession or, as another poster pointed out, a hyperinflation (fueled by the manic and messianic mood of the day) are in my opinion very long indeed.

It would take a miracle of economic prudence to prevent it, and, as I believe in miracles, I remain open to the possibility. But I have no reason to bet on anything, so far apart from the utter mismanagment of the current perilous predicament by the powers-elect.

8 posted on 01/04/2009 3:36:42 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (revolution is in the air.)
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To: Clive

Most business people I have talked with are very concerned about the next 2 - 4 years.
Inflation. Taxes. What will the Jan 1 rise in the Missouri minimum wage do to small business since it does nothing to increase productivity?
Energy costs? I would be afraid to invest in utilities like new coal fired power plants. A widening scale of the Israeli ass kicking of their problem neighbors could make oil shieks mad and they might shut down oil production.

While we hope things will not collapse, most small businesses are gearing for the worst. Same for individuals.
Fear and uncertainty are running the course of economics.
People have lost confidence in our government because they continuously reward failure and brush off corruption.

Frankly, it is pretty much out of our hands. For Obama, capitalist economics are definitely above his pay grade.


12 posted on 01/04/2009 3:53:56 PM PST by o_zarkman44 (Since when is paying more, but getting less, considered Patriotic?)
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To: Clive
True, unemployment in the United States is ticking up, approaching 7%, and some economists think the figure might crest at 8%. For the millions of people this affects, that’s bad news — but it’s hardly comparable to the Great Depression of the 1930s, when more than 25% were unemployed, over 50% in some regions. If 8% unemployment is considered a Great Depression, then Canada has been in a Great Depression for most of the last 30 years.

Ahem, Erza. Look at this chart of unemployment during the Great Depression:

Notice that unemployment in late 1929 and early 1930 wasn't too bad. Unemployment didn't peak until 1934, and didn't fall below double digits until 1941, the start of World War II for the United States.

To make a historical comparison, we are currently in January of 1930.

13 posted on 01/04/2009 3:57:03 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: Clive

We will only be in a depression as long as it takes the Chinese or Muzzies to take us over.


14 posted on 01/04/2009 3:58:56 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Clive
Great Depression??? Carpe Diem Financial Blog



Industrial Production - Annual Growth Rate



Concise analysis from a Prof in Michigan
15 posted on 01/04/2009 4:00:32 PM PST by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nihilism and BO is a WHINING marxist)
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To: Clive
I like Ezra, but I think he needs to take off the rose tinted glasses.

While things probably won't get as bad as the 30's, they're going to get much worse than they are now. The shocks to the world's economy have only begun, and the vicious cycle of downturn->layoffs->lower consumer spending->downturn has yet to begin.

25 posted on 01/04/2009 4:14:55 PM PST by TheWasteLand
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To: Clive
It's hard to say how it will be described.

Were the Dark Ages a "depression", or a "recession", or a "correction", or a "downturn"?

Did the Global Economy (for that era) continue to click along undeterred?

27 posted on 01/04/2009 4:16:52 PM PST by meadsjn (Socialists promote neighbors selling out their neighbors; Free Traitors promote just the opposite.)
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To: Clive

Definition: A depression is a recession managed by the government.

It depends on the the government’s reaction. It their continued reaction is to try to “bail out” practically everyone, especially those who should be allowed to fail and will eventually fail anyway, then, yes, we are headed for a Great Depression.


30 posted on 01/04/2009 4:33:49 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Obama is living proof that stupid people should not be allowed to vote.)
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Canada ping.


41 posted on 01/04/2009 5:33:02 PM PST by fanfan (Update on Constitutional Crisis in Canada.....Click user name)
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To: Clive

A dem’s going to be in office - the MSM has got to start the “big positive economy” push...


42 posted on 01/04/2009 5:39:34 PM PST by GOPJ (GM's market value is a third of Bed, Bath and Beyond. Why is GM "too big to fail"? Steyn)
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To: Clive

Overstating our current economic difficulties is USEFUL to the powers-that-be who want to ramp up the govt printing presses and force a NewNew Deal ‘stimulus’ that will help spread corrupt govt money around.

That’s why they talk about the “Great Depression” - not because it is true but because it makes for a good boogeyman to scare people - its utter and contemptible nonsense.


49 posted on 01/04/2009 7:24:30 PM PST by WOSG (Obama - a born in the USA socialist)
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To: Clive

It’s 1819 all over again.


64 posted on 01/05/2009 8:01:04 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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