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It looks like the cops were unmarked and in plain cloths.
1 posted on 01/04/2009 1:46:40 AM PST by BBell
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Looks like Grimes thought he was about to become a victim of a drive-by. And he was right.


2 posted on 01/04/2009 1:52:29 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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follow up from yesterday.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2158234/posts

3 posted on 01/04/2009 1:58:32 AM PST by BBell
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From the article:

“Assistant Police Superintendent Marlon Defillo said that on Saturday evening, as crime lab investigators began to “process” the car, they found an assault shotgun in the trunk along with a “high velocity” magazine clip for the 9 mm handgun and shotgun shells.”

Assault...high velocity


5 posted on 01/04/2009 2:03:49 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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All nine officers involved have been reassigned to desk duty pending the homicide division’s investigation of whether the shooting was justified, Riley said. He refused to identify the officers, saying it is “inappropriate” unless the department determines they did something wrong.

The nine officers, part of a 1st District narcotics unit working undercover to target armed robbers, included three women and six men. They were dressed like tourists, and the women would pose as “decoys” — potential victims — for robbers, Riley said.


6 posted on 01/04/2009 2:08:11 AM PST by BBell
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As officers came up beside the car, Grimes fired a shot at them, Riley said. He would not describe the officers’ unmarked vehicle, saying it will be used in future undercover operations.


7 posted on 01/04/2009 2:09:15 AM PST by BBell
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Tough neighborhood, both residents and cops are on edge.


9 posted on 01/04/2009 2:17:59 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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Assistant Police Superintendent Marlon Defillo said that on Saturday evening, as crime lab investigators began to "process" the car, they found an assault shotgun in the trunk along with a "high velocity" magazine clip for the 9 mm handgun and shotgun shells.

If an "Assistant Police Superintendent" actually said this, it reveals a lot about the NOPD.

This whole thing stinks to high heaven. There is a death under investigation, and they will not identify the cops involved, nor describe the "undercover car". Let "Joe Citizen" try withholding information in a case that doesn't even involve a death, and see how that works out for him.

So, if it's 3 AM in the 'hood, and a bunch of thugs roll up on you in a pimped-out hooptie mobile (just wait and see)... you should just assume that they are cops and get out and grab the ankles?

The conflicting stories, along with the details that are being withheld lead me to believe that they are trying to buy enough time to cook up a believable story. In the end, it's going to be determined to be good shooting... just watch.

It's a little early for popcorn, so I'm just going to enjoy a nice cup of coffee while I watch the "usual suspects" twist themselves into pretzels trying to convince the rest of us that this was a good shooting by the brave and noble po-leese.

16 posted on 01/04/2009 3:25:06 AM PST by PalmettoMason ("an empty limousine pulled up in front of the White House, and Barack Obama got out")
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Funny how everyone is assuming the cops are legit. I watched every season of “The Shield” and based on this, I think we have a rouge unit of police officers running rampant.

Actually, I am from the south side of Chicago and my dad was of Irish decent with plenty of dealings with the Mafia, so seen plenty of corruption.


20 posted on 01/04/2009 4:44:51 AM PST by BushCountry (They say the world has become too complex for simple answers. They are wrong.)
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The line from another posting on this same bit is priceless:

The victim was probably shooting over his shoulder, as he was running away.

Hence all the bullets in the back. Ya right!

21 posted on 01/04/2009 4:50:02 AM PST by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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Damn. Some mo' fo's roll up next to you at zero dark thirty in the 'hood.

They're not there to ask for directions to the old folks home. Hell no!

Those mo' fo's are trying to jack yo' a**.

The cops were looking to make something to happen and they did. In effect, they set this sap up .

What's the matter with these folks? Doesn't anyone ask, "Who Dat?" , anymore.

23 posted on 01/04/2009 5:03:19 AM PST by csvset
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Seven cops in one vehicle? Must have been sticking together for safety reasons. /s


25 posted on 01/04/2009 5:44:42 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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Maybe the plain 'clothes' were really just your neighborhood "jackin' balaclavas".

We won't ever know the truth because the only one that would likely tell the truth is dead. NOPD is 'ridin dirty'.

27 posted on 01/04/2009 6:03:50 AM PST by Gaffer
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I see a major problem with “rules of approach” here.

Undercover police have to have a different set of rules than uniform police. But when undercover police start acting like uniform police, it defeats the purpose of wearing uniforms at all.

Undercover police should never engage in a home invasion, unless accompanied by, and *behind* uniformed police.

Undercover police should never approach a civilian as a policeman, but assume that because they are wearing a disguise, the civilian will also assume that they are another civilian, and one with hostile intent.

This is because civilian approaches are done for a reason, and in a bad neighborhood, often a hostile reason.


29 posted on 01/04/2009 7:14:02 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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