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Conservatives Are Being Educated Out Of Existence
Chattanoogan.com, Chattanooga, Tenn. ^ | 2009-01-03 | Tim Price

Posted on 01/04/2009 12:27:20 AM PST by rabscuttle385

Republicans and conservatives are in jeopardy of being "educated" out of existence. That begs the question, why in a county that is over 60% Republican and conservative, do we allow our local school system to be run by liberals? Yes, while conservatives have slept, the local school systems across the country, including ours, have been completely taken over by liberals.

It is not only the liberals alone that have made this possible. It is also RINO (Republicans in name only) that have supported these liberal policies and made it possible for them to dominate the school system. Locally RINO's like Chip Baker, Richard Casavant, Joe Conner, Claude Ramsey, etc. are prime examples of politicians that have posed as Republicans basically to get elected while supporting liberal school policies and tax increases. They have been given their marching orders by the local liberal power-structure. They always support the HCEA, NEA, and whatever "…EA" that they can. What organizations can you name that are more liberal than those? Not many.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: conservatism; education; learning; leftismoncampus; liberals; moralabsolutes; nea; publicschools; rino; rinos; schools; teaching
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To: rabscuttle385
while conservatives Republicans have slept, the local school systems across the country, including ours, have been completely taken over by liberals.

There, fixed that.

41 posted on 01/04/2009 4:31:49 AM PST by DH (The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
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To: rabscuttle385

THIS is only ONE factor. To begin with, conservatives need to support conservatives who follow conservative principles while in office.


42 posted on 01/04/2009 4:32:39 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: rabscuttle385
Republicans and conservatives are in jeopardy of being "educated" out of existence.

This opening statement is based on the false premise Republicans and Conservatives are one and the same. That couldn't be more wrong. The Republican party has been moving towards the socialist left for years to expand the voter base.

Only Conservatives are in jeopardy of being educated out of existence because socialists are dumbing down school systems to exert more control over the masses.
43 posted on 01/04/2009 4:54:45 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: rabscuttle385
It is also RINO (Republicans in name only) that have supported these liberal policies and made it possible for them to dominate the school system.

Until the republican party rids itself of rino control (Duncan) nothing will happen except more liberalism. You have to take out the trash for the house to get clean.

44 posted on 01/04/2009 4:58:40 AM PST by sirchtruth (Gravity Of The Situation...)
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To: rabscuttle385

” why in a county that is over 60% Republican and conservative, do we allow our local school system to be run by liberals?”

Try going to a local government meeting and it’s rare to see a conservative in attendance, while in back are a dozen liberals, welfare bums and Marxists screaming for higher taxes, more government and less freedom.

There’s your answer.

Conservatives are so focused on the federal government that they forget to clean up their own backyard first.


45 posted on 01/04/2009 5:04:12 AM PST by sergeantdave (Michigan is a bigger mistake than your state.)
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To: rabscuttle385
I can't do much for the conservative movement per se, but I did pull my children out of public school and homeschooled them.

If every conservative had enough and did that, it would make a world of difference. Who is willing to pay the price of living more simply in order to have that happen? It seems the word "sacrifice" is no longer in the conservative's vocabulary.

46 posted on 01/04/2009 5:06:01 AM PST by pray4liberty (Always vote for life!)
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To: Txngal
“So now that the problem has been identified...how is it going to be corrected?”

The only way to correct the problem is with school vouchers, which in turn will kill off the teachers union.

Get rid of the union and you get rid of the communists!

47 posted on 01/04/2009 5:09:29 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: verklaring
The cost of paying double for Christian day schools plus also paying for the government system (with no benefit) is a heavy sacrifice.

I've been privileged to serve on the board of a Christian day school for five years, three of them as chairman.

There is no question that many Christian families who would choose this type of school do not do so because of the cost.

One of the obstacles to external fundraising is conflict and division among local churches. In my area, no single church is large or wealthy enough to support a denominational school. While a nondenominational school can in theory overcome this problem, there are always objectors, in every denomination, that the school is "too Christian", or "not Christian enough", or, inevitably, "not 'really' Christian".

While these battles go on, many children are lost.

48 posted on 01/04/2009 5:21:10 AM PST by Jim Noble (Long May Our Land Be Bright With Freedom's Holy Light)
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To: Txngal
Read this old FR thread from 1999. (You mat have to hit F5 or refresh several times.) Note #17. Mission accomplished.

Communist Goals (1963)

49 posted on 01/04/2009 5:32:00 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The main stream media lied - America died.)
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To: Jim Noble
Vouchers on a state level will be tough to pass because the national teachers unions will spend millions to block it.

I wonder if it would be better to push RTW bills in states?

That might be easier to sell to the average voter and with a few more RTW states all the jobs will leave the ones that don't follow suit.

I think even the RTW bills will have to bypass the state legislature and go as a ballot initiative.

50 posted on 01/04/2009 5:35:42 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: browniexyz

All you say is true.


51 posted on 01/04/2009 5:40:16 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: rabscuttle385
"That begs the question, why in a county that is over 60% Republican and conservative, do we allow our local school system to be run by liberals?

The author makes the same mistake that the conservatives did back in the 1820's, when they went from opposing to supporting the creation of public schools. They thought it is possible to run a socialist institution in a conservative manner. Can't happen, it's impossible.

Public education is a socialist institution. By it's nature, it is going to support the further expansion of government. By it's nature, it is going to oppose excellence. By it's nature, it will be subject to fads, fashions and cockamamie ideas in education in the attempt to solve its inner contradictions.

The only solution to socialist institutions is to shut them down and return power and freedom to the people. Forget about "reforming" public schools, that's a fool's errand.

52 posted on 01/04/2009 5:40:20 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Barack Obama, the American Salvador Allende.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I’ll go one step further— Not only do we need to take back the education system, but more importantly, we MUST take the MSM. Unless we have the media, we will never win any significant long term battles. The media is key to any effort in the future.


53 posted on 01/04/2009 5:44:35 AM PST by devane617 (...And to the Republic For Which It Stood...)
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To: rabscuttle385

Public schooling and liberals go together naturally. It’s liberals who think the govt does it better and needs no excuse to commit tyranny when it’s for the children.
Attempts to equalize things politically will always fail for this reason. It’s their natural habitat, not ours.
Just get your kids out of there. If you think your local school is any different, get your head out of the sand too, because it isn’t.

New tagline...Live your principles. Don’t just type them here.


54 posted on 01/04/2009 5:52:42 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Live your principles. Don't just type them here.)
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To: Gondring
I wonder how many FReepers who love to bloviate and decry the problem have actually taken the time, effort, and money to go to schools and volunteer, substitute teach, or provide materials for the teachers to use.

You're playing with matches, Gondring. Have a good lawyer, because you will eventually need one. If you want that proven, I'll buy you a pro-life, anti-gay, or anti-0bama shirt to wear to your next encounter.

55 posted on 01/04/2009 6:06:14 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Live your principles. Don't just type them here.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Christians called to mass exodus from public schools
One News Now ^ | 1/2/2009 | Pete Chagnon

Critics of America’s public school system have launched a new effort highlighting the need for Christians to exit the system.

The initiative — dubbed The Call to Dunkirk was launched by Dr. Bruce Shortt, author of The Harsh Truth About Public Schools; Rev. Voddie Baucham, author of Family Driven Faith: Doing What It Takes to Raise Sons and Daughters Who Walk with God; and the founder and director of the Exodus Mandate Project, retired U.S. Army Chaplain Lt. Col. E. Ray Moore.

Moore explains the proposal. “The Call to Dunkirk is a special emergency effort to try to get other ministries, churches, pastors, and the major Christian right and pro-family movement to join with us and the other K-12 home-school ministries in rescuing the children from the public schools during the year 2009,” he says.

Although Christians have fought other aspects of the culture war such as homosexual “marriage,” Moore contends they are losing the fight when it comes to the education of their children.

” The real target of the liberals and the left has always been the children. And we can see in California where the conservatives won Proposition 8 — the vote [was] 52 to 48 [percent] — but...when Proposition 22 was voted on [in March 2000], they had a 61-percent margin of victory. So the culture is turning against Christianity and against the pro-family movement primarily because we’ve allowed our children to be educated in their schools,” he adds. “They’re converting our children; we’re not converting them.”

The Call to Dunkirk gets its name from the historical WWII event when the Allied forces of England and France were run out of Europe, but ordinary citizens rallied to their aid and used their own boats to help more than 300,000 soldiers escape safely in order to return again on D-Day.


56 posted on 01/04/2009 6:12:35 AM PST by CharlotteVRWC
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To: rabscuttle385

57 posted on 01/04/2009 6:13:51 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: pray4liberty
Who is willing to pay the price of living more simply in order to have that happen?

I hear such things frequently. Why is it a sacrifice? What "price" is it to pay? In what way are you living more simply and why isn't that regarded as a good thing?

I'm in a homeschooling family. I consider the homeschooling a luxury, a privilege, an advantage we enjoy, not a sacrifice. It isn't like living without electricity or indoor plumbing. It's living without govt indoctrination and compulsory community service and cafeteria chow and the risk of contagion both biological and ideological.

58 posted on 01/04/2009 6:16:13 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Live your principles. Don't just type them here.)
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To: CharlotteVRWC

Call to Dunkirk. I like it!


59 posted on 01/04/2009 6:20:22 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Live your principles. Don't just type them here.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Few conservatives voted this election now look what we have in office an 100% pure idiot.


60 posted on 01/04/2009 6:23:21 AM PST by Vaduz
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