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Is Obama a natural-born citizen?
Lima News ^ | January 4, 2009 | Thomas Lucente

Posted on 01/03/2009 11:16:05 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The most underreported story of 2008 has to be the continuing saga of a few brave souls who are working through the courts to force President-elect Barack Obama to prove his citizenship.

In fact, a report from The Associated Press dismissed the whole thing as nothing but Internet conspiracy theories.

This lack of coverage is just the latest example of why I have mostly lost hope for the mainstream media in the United States.

Thanks to the lack of media coverage, many of you reading this may be unaware of the multitude of lawsuits challenging Obama's citizenship and his legal right to be president.

The Framers, when putting together our Constitution, inserted Article 2, Section 1, Clause 4, which tells us. "No Person except a natural born Citizen ... shall be eligible to the Office of President." The same clause prevents Austrian-born California Gov. Arnold A. Schwarzenegger from being president.

There have been at least 17 lawsuits filed in state and federal courts alleging that Obama does not meet the Constitutional requirement of being a natural-born citizen.

The lawsuits filed all have varying theories on Obama's citizenship, including that he was not born in the United States, that he became a citizen of Indonesia when he was adopted, or that he had dual citizenship at birth, which means he was not a natural-born citizen.

The lawsuit with which I am most familiar was filed in a federal court in Pennsylvania by Philip Berg, a Democrat.

That lawsuit alleges that Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya. Berg says he has a recording of Obama's grandmother, Sarah Obama, saying she was present when Obama was born in Kenya.

Berg further claims that Obama himself and other members of his family have made conflicting statements as to where he was born. Additionally, Kenyan officials have said Obama was born in Kenya.

Much of the controversy surrounds Obama's birth certificate. The state of Hawaii has refused to release the long-form or "vault" copy of the birth certificate. Obama also has refused to release the long-form copy.

Back in June, the campaign did release a short-form certificate, which is a certificate created by Hawaii that says the long-form certificate is on file. However, according to Berg, the campaign only released the short-form certificate to The Daily Kos, a left-wing blog, and FactCheck.org, a pro-Obama organization. Additionally, Berg has called the short-form certificate a forgery.

Berg brought the case to the U.S. Supreme Court and was initially denied by Justices David Souter and Anthony Kennedy before submitting his petition to Justice Antonin Scalia.

The Supreme Court has scheduled two conferences on the case, one for Friday and a second one for Jan. 16, four days before Obama will take office.

I do not know if Obama is a natural-born citizen. My instincts tell me that it would have been difficult for him to hide that fact for so long. However, citizenship law can be very murky and Obama's reticence on the matter is disturbing.

I know from personal experience that when dealing with duel citizenship issues, birth certificates are usually filed in both countries. The state of Hawaii's statement that it has a birth certificate on file does nothing in solving the mystery of where Obama was born. It merely tells us his birth was recorded in Hawaii.

The whole controversy might be nothing more than a crazy conspiracy theory. Then again, it might be a valid argument.

The whole matter could easily be settled by the state of Hawaii releasing the long-form certificate, something the Supreme Court can force if it accepts the case for arguments.

There is much at stake here. This is a serious constitutional question. If we find out later that Obama was not a natural-born citizen, then everything he did as president, treaties, laws, executive orders, etc., would be invalid.

The candidates spent more than $1 billion and two years vying for the job. Would it not make sense to give lawyers an afternoon arguing the issue in front of the Supreme Court? That is the least we could do to make sure the person taking the oath of office actually meets the requirements.

The Constitution demands nothing less.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: barackobama; berg; bho2008; birthcertificate; certifigate; donquixote; obama; obamagate; obamatruthfile; scotus; supremecourt; whereisrush
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Good short synopsis, as far as it goes.
1 posted on 01/03/2009 11:16:06 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think he is an enemy of the state with mixed loyalties among other things.

His silence is damming.

Will we allow a limp duck President to take office?

A mulatto mallard so to speak?


2 posted on 01/03/2009 11:24:52 PM PST by Eye of Unk (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! SA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He most certainly is.

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. Of Kenya

3 posted on 01/03/2009 11:25:12 PM PST by libh8er
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The news media is afraid of Obama (not Obama himself but who ever is behing Obama), the US Supreme Court is afraid, etc., etc.

THere is a lot of money behind this. Like the maffia. This country will be distroy from within, unless there is a civil war.

All we can do now is pray. Maybe, just maybe GOd will spare this country.


4 posted on 01/03/2009 11:30:59 PM PST by Lily4Jesus ( Jesus Saves)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The MSM gave more headlines and creedance to the false stories that Sarah Palin had banned public library books. Welcome to the Orwellian society.


5 posted on 01/03/2009 11:33:28 PM PST by Tempest (Obama is not my president.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Naturally he was born, but I don’t know if he was born naturally, but I suspect he’s not natural born.


6 posted on 01/03/2009 11:37:53 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Eye of Unk
"I think he is an enemy of the state with mixed loyalties among other things."

yitbos

7 posted on 01/03/2009 11:44:24 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: Lily4Jesus
the whole issue is wierd, and obama is wierd , the fact that the public elected Obama is TOTALLY bizarre, and even more bizarre is how he is already being immortalized as some sort of legend .....

WEIRD !

8 posted on 01/03/2009 11:45:09 PM PST by KTM rider (keep thy powder dry, gird thy loins, and brace for the winds of change)
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To: Lily4Jesus
THere is a lot of money behind this. Like the maffia. This country will be distroy from within, unless there is a civil war.

The country has already been destroyed from within. Smell the coffee. There are not a handfull of Americans that would force a civil war.

9 posted on 01/03/2009 11:45:14 PM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: Lily4Jesus
The news media is afraid of Obama (not Obama himself but who ever is behing Obama), the US Supreme Court is afraid, etc., etc. THere is a lot of money behind this. Like the maffia. This country will be distroy from within, unless there is a civil war. All we can do now is pray. Maybe, just maybe GOd will spare this country.

This is the right question to ask. Who is behind Barack Obama. He is a ghost, his "family" are ghosts. He has no past. They have a highly improbable past. What the hell is going on? Why did so many Americans vote for this ghost?

10 posted on 01/03/2009 11:47:28 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Many are dubious of his eligibility to be President. Here are the obstacles...Hawaii, Congress, and SCOTUS. Without clear proof and overwhelming public outcry no action will be taken.
11 posted on 01/03/2009 11:49:46 PM PST by topfile
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To: Lily4Jesus

there is a civil war.
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There won’t be a civil war. Conservatives will be completely content to slowly cook like frogs.


12 posted on 01/03/2009 11:51:23 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I dunno, but is it standard procedure to have the president elect present a valid long-form birth certificate? Or is this a special case, based on the story of a woman from Obama´s extended family (that has the ring of a standard tall tale).

After all, the notion that a poor student couple with a late term pregnant woman decides to pop over to Africa in the sixties seems... well, let´s just say it´s a long shot.


13 posted on 01/03/2009 11:52:39 PM PST by oscars300
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To: Digger
There are not a handfull of Americans that would force a civil war.
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We will see what is seen in banana republics: quiet “disappearances”.

14 posted on 01/03/2009 11:54:34 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: April Lexington

He certainly has a past. He even wrote several books about his path. Essentially, he has a huge race complex, and his life has been a quest for “true blackness”. As so many liberal minorities these days, he has an outsize sense of victimization.

At a certain point though, however, he realized his career as an “inauthentic black” would be better if he pandered to white liberals rather than to the traditional black constituency (after he lost an election to a former black panther, no less). If this inspired any change in underlying beliefs remains to be seen.


15 posted on 01/03/2009 11:57:09 PM PST by oscars300
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To: oscars300

oscars300
Since Dec 8, 2008

Is it snowing in Chicago? Do you guys get cubicles or just sit on old couchs and chairs donated by International ANSWER? What does that pay, if I may ask?


16 posted on 01/03/2009 11:57:23 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What’s been offered for internet evaluation is a questionable Certificate of Live Birth, whatever that means, not a short form birth certificate.


17 posted on 01/03/2009 11:58:12 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Digger

I used to say God Bless This Country, now I’m down to God Save This Country..............

“There are not a handfull of Americans that would force a civil war.”

And the statement from the past “.....and never fire a shot”

God Save us from the end of a great country, I wonder if the citizens of Rome were feeling a whole lot like I am at this time in our demise.


18 posted on 01/03/2009 11:58:59 PM PST by PROSOUTH ( Deo Vindice "God Will Vindicate")
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To: wintertime
"We will see what is seen in banana republics: quiet “disappearances”."

Starting in Chicago. Fitz has thousands of tapes and all the names. Seen any indictments? Fitz works for Rahm Emanuel?

Remember Hillary's list? Now, Hussein has one.

yitbos

19 posted on 01/04/2009 12:00:05 AM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: wintertime
Conservatives will be completely content to slowly cook like frogs

Sad but so.

20 posted on 01/04/2009 12:00:57 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget (July 4, 2009 see you there))
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