Posted on 01/02/2009 6:02:32 PM PST by neverdem
Never made much sense to me. This would require a truly massive human population for a hunter-gatherer economy. There just isn't really any evidence of so many people being around then.
SCIAM’s version and a link to the abstract
You know... lipstick on that thing... it makes me ask, WHY? Is the lipstick going to make anything better?
From the link:
In the second report, John Alroy of the University of California at Santa Barbara describes a computer simulation of the end-Pleistocene megafaunal extinction in North America showing that even low levels of human hunting would have driven the Ice Age behemoths out of existence. Importantly, the simulation, which assumes a slow human population growth rate and low maximum hunting efforts, correctly predicts the fate of 32 out of 41 megafaunal species. These findings, Alroy argues, show that in fact anthropogenic extinction was unavoidable. "The overkill model thus serves as a parable of resource exploitation," he concludes, "providing a clear mechanism for a geologically instantaneous ecological catastrophe that was too gradual to be perceived by the people who unleashed it."
I never heard of it before either. Never get surprised by a Malthusian with a computer model.
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Thanks for the pic. Happy New Year!
The problem with this theory is that many of the same species survived just fine in Asia. Why would humans exterminate megafauna in N. America but not in Asia?
Speaking of cosmic stuff, is there anyone here that did not know that Voyager 1 is still operational and is currently in interstellar space and approaching the heliopause which is outside out our star system?
Well of course not. Didn’t you know that the Bible tells us the Earth is just 6,000 years old?
when will we ever learn
“Blast from the Past.” — mea culpa, should have edited that out.
Here’s the list of topics about this, all are worth checking out over the next couple of, well, weeks, months, whatever is required. ;’)
What killed the mammoths and other behemoths?
FR Post 6-6-2 | Interview with Ross MacPhee
Posted on 06/05/2002 6:34:28 PM EDT by vannrox
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/695260/posts
Ancient Atomic Warfare - Religious texts and geological evidence
New York Herald Tribune on February 16, 1947 | Ivan T. Sanderson
Posted on 07/22/2002 5:01:00 PM EDT by vannrox
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/720501/posts
Supernova debris found on Earth
News@Nature.com | 02 November 2004 | Mark Peplow
Posted on 11/24/2004 4:22:08 PM EST by Phsstpok
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1287848/posts
Deep freeze dealt death knell to bison (Ice Age)
CBC News Online | 11/25/2004
Posted on 11/25/2004 10:25:47 PM EST by Fatalis
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1288596/posts
Supernova Storm Wiped Out Mammoths?
Discovery News | 09/28/05 | Jennifer Viegas
Posted on 10/05/2005 2:47:27 AM EDT by planetesimal
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1496844/posts
Supernova Storm Wiped Out Mammoths?
Discovery News | Sept. 28, 2005 | Jennifer Viegas
Posted on 10/17/2005 11:57:32 AM EDT by Fzob
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1503957/posts
Scientist: Comets Blasted Early Americans
ap on Yahoo | 10/28/05 | Meg Kinnard - ap
Posted on 10/28/2005 6:33:11 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1511330/posts
Terrestrial Evidence of a Nuclear Catastrophe in Paleoindian Times
Mammoth Trumpet | March 2001 | Firestone/Topping
Posted on 07/24/2006 3:03:03 AM EDT by ForGod’sSake
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1671134/posts
Did comet start deadly cold snap?
Canada.com | Monday, May 14, 2007 | Margaret Munro
Posted on 05/16/2007 6:00:33 PM EDT by Mike Darancette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1834769/posts
Diamonds tell tale of comet that killed off the cavemen
Guardian | 5-20-07 | Robin McKie
Posted on 05/20/2007 7:50:33 PM EDT by Renfield
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1836898/posts
Catastrophic Comet Chilled and Killed Ice Age Beasts (and Clovis people)
Live Science | 05/21/07 | Jeanna Bryner
Posted on 05/22/2007 1:16:48 AM EDT by TigerLikesRooster
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1837610/posts
Oregon Researchers Involved In New Clovis-Age Impact Theory (More)
Eureka Alert
Posted on 05/23/2007 5:30:19 PM EDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1838660/posts
Comet May Have Doomed Mammoths
Red Orbit | 5-26-07 | Betsy Mason
Posted on 05/26/2007 9:12:53 AM EDT by Renfield
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1840136/posts
Ice Age Ends Smashingly: Did A Comet Blow Up Over Eastern Canada? (More) (Carolina Bays)
Science News | 6-1-2007 | Sid Perkins
Posted on 06/02/2007 6:14:23 PM EDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1843831/posts
Climate alarmists lose another piece of evidence
enterstageright | 6/11/2007 | Dennis T. Avery
Posted on 06/11/2007 1:11:38 PM EDT by Neville72
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1848385/posts
Comet Theory Collides With Clovis Research,
May Explain Disappearance of Ancient People
University of South Carolina(USC News) | June 28, 2007 | Staff
Posted on 08/04/2007 2:29:34 AM EDT by ForGod’sSake
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1876220/posts
NSF Press Release:
Comet May Have Exploded Over North America 13,000 Years Ago
National Science Foundation Press Release | August 14, 2007 | Cheryl Dybas, NSF
Posted on 08/15/2007 8:32:04 PM EDT by baynut
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1881784/posts
Research Team Says Extraterrestrial Impact To Blame For Ice Age Extinctions (More)
Eureka Alert | Northern Arizona University - Lisa Nelson
Posted on 09/25/2007 3:58:19 PM EDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1902003/posts
Cosmic blast may have killed off megafauna
Scientists say early humans doomed, too
Boston Globe | September 27, 2007 | Colin Nickerson
Posted on 09/25/2007 9:45:11 PM EDT by baynut
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1902154/posts
Cosmic blast may have killed off megafauna
Scientists say early humans doomed, too
Boston Globe | September 25, 2007 | Colin Nickerson
Posted on 09/26/2007 9:11:48 AM EDT by baynut
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1902361/posts
Evidence for an extraterrestrial impact 12,900 years ago
Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences
October 9, 2007, Vol. 104 | September 27, 2007 | R. B. Firestone, et. al.
Posted on 09/30/2007 1:14:28 PM EDT by baynut
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1904474/posts
The End of Eden: The Comet That Changed Civilization
amazon | Oct. 8, 2007
Posted on 10/09/2007 2:47:23 AM EDT by doug from upland
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1908525/posts
Great beasts peppered from space
BBC News | 12-11-07
Posted on 12/12/2007 9:55:00 AM PST by Renfield
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1938461/posts
Did Comets Cause Ancient American Extinctions?
National Geographic News | 5-6-2008 | Anne Casselman
Posted on 05/07/2008 6:40:10 PM PDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2012792/posts
Al Goodyear And The Secrets Of Ancient Americans
Free Times | 5-14/20-2008 | Ron Aiken
Posted on 05/15/2008 3:25:21 PM PDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2016537/posts
Life Survived Catastrophic Space Rock Impact [Chesapeake Bay area]
Space.com | June 26, 2008 | Jeanna Bryner
Posted on 06/26/2008 8:04:37 PM PDT by ETL
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2037094/posts
First Humans To Settle Americas Came From Europe, Not From Asia....
Science Daily | 7-1-08
Posted on 07/03/2008 4:55:14 AM PDT by Renfield
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2040167/posts
Exploding Asteroid Theory Strengthened By New Evidence Located In Ohio, Indiana
Physorg | 7-1-2008 | University of Cincinnati
Posted on 07/02/2008 3:27:51 PM PDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2039949/posts
Diamonds Rained Down During Ice Age
Live Science | JUL 7, 2008 | Ker Than
Posted on 07/07/2008 2:05:25 PM PDT by decimon
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2042031/posts
Diamonds Rained Down During Ice Age ($$$)
LiveScience.com | July 7, 2008 | Ker Than
Posted on 07/08/2008 9:50:22 PM PDT by max americana
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2042770/posts
Tracking down abrupt climate changes
(Rapid natural climate change 12,700 years ago)
Helmholtz Association of German Research Centres | Aug 1, 2008 | Unknown
Posted on 08/01/2008 11:03:47 AM PDT by decimon
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2054995/posts
Mammoth Mystery: The Beasts’ Final Years
Live Science | Sep 4, 2008 | Charles Q. Choi
Posted on 09/04/2008 10:42:29 AM PDT by decimon
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2074657/posts
Scientists find signs of 13,000-year-old extinction event
Chicago Tribune | January 2, 2009 | Robert Mitchum
Posted on 01/01/2009 2:09:17 PM PST by neverdem
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2157352/posts
Scientists say comet killed off mammoths, saber-toothed tigers
www.physorg.com | 02 JAN 2009 | By Robert Mitchum
Posted on 01/02/2009 7:44:26 AM PST by Red Badger
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2157621/posts
Diamonds Linked to Quick Cooling Eons Ago
NY Times | January 2, 2009 | KENNETH CHANG
Posted on 01/02/2009 9:02:31 AM PST by Pharmboy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2157663/posts
Six North American sites hold 12,900-year-old nanodiamond-rich soil
www.physorg.com | 01-01-2009 | Source: University of Oregon in Nanotechnology / Materials
Posted on 01/02/2009 10:44:35 AM PST by Red Badger
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2157721/posts
Kankakee Sand Islands:
Research Casts New Light On History Of North America
Newswise | 7-1-2008 | Valparaiso University
Posted on 07/01/2008 10:26:26 AM PDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2039278/posts
First Humans To Settle Americas Came From Europe, Not From Asia Over Bering Strait -
ScienceDaily | July 17, 2008
Posted on 07/16/2008 8:02:06 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2046692/posts
Red lipstick on anyone has never made sense to me.
Welll... except maybe an Asian hooker. LOL
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