Posted on 01/02/2009 1:30:04 PM PST by Red Badger
Can a car run on water?
Bend businessman Rob Juliano claims it can, despite ample skepticism from scientists and automotive experts.
Although the average price of fuel has slipped dramatically from a summer high of more than $4 per gallon, Juliano believes water — specifically the hydrogen contained in water — can be used to power an internal-combustion engine at a fraction of the cost of gasoline.
Hydrogen is being pursued as a fuel by car manufacturers. Honda earlier this year debuted its FCX Clarity, a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle powered by an electric motor. BMW has developed a car that can use either gasoline or hydrogen to power a traditional motor.
Juliano, however, is peddling something a bit different. Through his company — UnitedH2O.com — the 1984 graduate of Bend’s Mountain View High School builds and installs electrolytic hydrogen generators. They are small, footlong canisters that use electricity from a car battery to break water into its gaseous components, hydrogen and oxygen.
The gases are then funneled into the engine, where — due to the combustive nature of hydrogen — it is used to help drive an engine’s pistons. The process means less gasoline is injected into the piston cylinders, hence the car can travel farther on less gas, thereby increasing the car’s fuel efficiency. In other words, Juliano says cars with his system get more miles per gallon.
Lincoln City resident Linda Young, who paid roughly $1,100 to have Juliano install the system, says her gas mileage has increased nearly 65 percent. Her Nissan Maxima used to get roughly 17 miles per gallon, but the last time she checked, it was getting 28 miles per gallon, she said.
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The 40 KW generator does work and the energy to do that work comes from somewhere even if you don't see it, from gas produced by electricity produced by a power plant burning fuel with loses all the way.
Exactly what vehicles did Tesla power without fuel?
I think you make a valid point. The title of the article is misleading and deliberately provocative. It causes people who have a technical background to scoff, and it doesn't give the idea a serious audience. Everyone posting on this thread knows that you can't hydrolize water and then burn it and come out ahead, if hydrogen is all you're burning. But this guy is using a mixed fuel of hydrogen and gasoline. I am skeptical, but would like to know more.
It is fascinating...My son has one of these gadgets, although not hooked up yet...I made an impromtu hook up to test it...Immediately starts creating hydrogen gas...Ha!, I stuck a lighter close to it and received a little mini explosion...Truly fascinating...Water burning...
I have concerns about the long term affect on the motor...I also have concerns about the water freezing in my northern climate...
I have met people who are using these things...We'll get 'er hooked up pretty soon...
But does it have a flux capacitor?
Lincoln City resident Linda Young, who paid roughly $1,100 to have Juliano install the system, says her gas mileage has increased nearly 65 percent. Her Nissan Maxima used to get roughly 17 miles per gallon, but the last time she checked, it was getting 28 miles per gallon, she said.Let's look at what is really happening here. Any Nissan maxima that is only getting 17 MPG should be parked permanently; my Jeep Cherokees that are carrying 800+ pounds of surveying equipment get better than that. What likely happened is that the Maxima got repaired and properly tuned, and 90% of the increase is due to that, not the gaget.
Brown's Gas does offer a small increase in combustion efficiency, but not enough in most cases to justify the cost of the unit.
” Engines have been made that ran successfully on pure water, after it was heated by burning wood or coal. “
Or gas or kerosene, or HYDROGEN, or, or,... or a Witch!
” Rainbows and unicorn farts are a more reliable source of energy. “
That actually works if you...
if you...
wait for it-
WAIT FOR IT—
REVERSE THE POLARITY!!! YES, YES, YES!!!!
Time to check the old BS meter in for a little go-over. Methinks it’s a little bit busted.
Me thinks you are on the right track.
” And unfortunately, that would take twice as much electrical energy to produce the same volume of oxygen as hydrogen.. ‘
Silly question from a non-scientist: You’d have to electrolize (electolyse? electrocute? waterboard?) twice as much water to get as many oxygen atoms, but what would the comparative volume be? Oxygen’s a bigger atom, what is it’s comparative density at 1 atmosphere? More relevant, how would the available energy yield compare?
Ok, I’ve read all the way thru this thread. I’m not worried - because DRUDGE doesn’t have a siren up on it yet.
YELLOWSTONE MAY BLOW!
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