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Ineligible Obama, Playing with Constitutional Fire
Right Side News ^ | January 2, 2009 | JB Williams

Posted on 01/02/2009 10:37:08 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican

Numerous legal challenges have been filed in an effort to force president-elect Barack Obama to validate his constitutional eligibility for the office he seeks and while it is true that suit after suit has been denied in the courts, it is also true that all of them have been denied on a technicality rather than on the merits of the case against Obama.

And although Obama could have ended the debate months ago by simply delivering a $10.00 certified copy of his official birth records to prove his constitutional edibility, he has instead chosen to spend nearly a million bucks in legal defense fees hoping to run out the clock and assume office before any of the legal challenges will be heard by the courts.

A few things are quite clear at this point

* Article II - Section I of the Constitution clearly limits those who can serve as Commander-in-Chief to "natural born citizens" of the United States, and for good reason

* The Hawaii certificate posted on Obama's web-site is insufficient and in question at best

* Obama's Kenyan relatives state that they attended his birth in Kenya

* Later, Obama was indeed a legal citizen of Indonesia, traveling under his Indonesian passport as recent as in his early twenties

* There is no known record of Obama changing his Indonesian citizenship back to American citizenship, and it wouldn't make him a "natural born citizen" even if he did

* None of this seems to matter to anyone of consequence...

On this basis, we are headed towards not one, but numerous constitutional crises.

How will an unconstitutional president rule?

(Excerpt) Read more at rightsidenews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bho2008; birthcertificate; certifigate; constitution; obama; obamatruthfile; rights
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To: traderrob6

Well said!


81 posted on 01/02/2009 12:12:27 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: listenhillary
I’m pretty sick of the whole story, but why does Obamer NOT produce evidence and shut everyone up? Why spend a million dollars on fighting the legal challenges?

I would guess that he spends big bucks fighting to keep his birth certificate hidden for the same reason that JFKerry never released his military records - damaging information, whether it be citizenship or other. Otherwise it makes absolutely no sense to not produce the document(s).

I doubt it will make any difference now except in public opinion, because the fix always seems to be in for the lefites, but I'll bet there is information that would have nipped his run in the bud had it been disclosed early on.

82 posted on 01/02/2009 12:13:57 PM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: PlainOleAmerican
You said it all here and even FR is now infected with the likes, as is evidenced on this thread.

I agree. They're the ones who had big smiles on their faces as they pushed the Button for Dole.

When I voted, I said a prayer for Sarah to become POTUS as soon as possible.

83 posted on 01/02/2009 12:15:26 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Where’s that “Aw geez, not this crap again” image when you need it.


84 posted on 01/02/2009 12:15:35 PM PST by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: mquinn

That pesky old constitution....


85 posted on 01/02/2009 12:17:06 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: mquinn
Where’s that “Aw geez, not this crap again” image when you need it.

It's over at DU. Maybe if you knock on their door, they'll loan you a copy of it.

86 posted on 01/02/2009 12:17:35 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Snardius

Your whole construct presumes a defeatist mentality and a willingness to let the LeftMedia dictate the terms of the argument. Who exactly determines that “I will lose that argument”?

The battle revolves solely on the dictates of the Constitution being adhered to, nothing more.

Oh, and Nixon was an Eagle Scout compared to Clinton, Kennedy and LBJ.


87 posted on 01/02/2009 12:19:39 PM PST by EyeGuy
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To: buccaneer81

Wanting this tinfoil gibberish to be over and done with on the FR has nothing to do with the DU, sonny.

The “OMG UR A SEEKRIT LIBERUL!” retort is about as old and as tired as this Obamacitizen stuff is.


88 posted on 01/02/2009 12:20:13 PM PST by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: reaganaut1

Dear reaganaut1:

If you were my attorney and I was in jail with one phone call to make. It would not be to you. You would say “Dude, sorry you got arrested and I know you are innocent, but hey look at all the evidence that’s lined up against you. It’s overwhelming Dude!!” Then I would say, “Well, that’s why I need you to fight for me!” Then you you’d say, “Its a big waste of time to fight for you, just plead guilty.”

reaganaut1, please don’t give legal or other important advice, ever!


89 posted on 01/02/2009 12:20:25 PM PST by TheCause (Let the lord of the black land come forth...let justice be done upon him!)
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To: Snardius
We should pick our battles and not be distracted by the minutia.

Yeah, that old Constitution is minutia. Right.

You must be a federal court judge.

90 posted on 01/02/2009 12:20:27 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: traderrob6

By the poster’s own words, the Constitution is no longer a contract enforced so the ‘hill’ represented by demanding an affiramtive action fraud prove he is Constitutionally eligible is not a place to fight. The poster has already slithered into the cowards lair andcan only bluster ridicule at those still in the fight. Perhaps it is comabt fatigue, but we the people cannot let the democrat socialist bastards have their way just because the battles seem never ending. The poster hasn’t the depth to realize that giving this ‘hill’ to the enemy abrogates the We The People contract with the federal authority. Obama is more than willing to accept the cowardly acquiescence of folks like Snardius, Government Shrinker, reaganaut1, bronxboy, Star Traveler. Some of those may not even be American citizens and have a vested interest in the Constitution being abrogated now.


91 posted on 01/02/2009 12:21:23 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: buccaneer81
We were set up in this election cycle.

McCain was supported by only 30% of registered republicans. Palin is a wonderful Governor, but was a long shot help to McCain.

Even the Clinton juggernaut was no match for an international Obama-mania.

RNC heads MUST roll and FAST! The primary process MUST be changed instantly to reflect the will of conservatives rather than New England liberals.

And the GOP MUST reform to its core values, or it will die on the ash heap of failed political party's.

92 posted on 01/02/2009 12:23:39 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: MHGinTN; little jeremiah

Good post. I hope lj’s list is updated with those names.

The poster has already slithered into the coward’s lair and can only bluster ridicule at those still in the fight.
***Like French Trolls? Maybe we’ve found a name for those kinds of FReepers who troll on certifiGate threads with such well described behavior.


93 posted on 01/02/2009 12:25:26 PM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Strawman constructs won’t get you very far. As far as the sane people around here are concerned, this is a fringe nutjob story, and there’s really nothing much to be gained by inflating it every week or so.

As far as I am concerned Michelle Malkin had people like you pegged but good a month ago;

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/12/05/truthers-to-the-left-of-me-truthers-to-the-right/


94 posted on 01/02/2009 12:25:36 PM PST by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: nufsed

You have asked that question before, been given an explanation, yet you continue to try and obfuscate with that query. Why? Are ytou inacapabale of reading the explanation or just trying to be obtuse? Obama has three law firms working the more than seventeen lawsuits and travleing around the world covering his tracks, burying his documentation and operating research work to uncover any loose ends and bury them. How much do you think that costs? Do you think the courts have picked up the costs for the three law firms, the detectives, and the travel expenses accumulating now for more than three years? Did you know that one of the illegal accessors of his passport files was a firm owned by an ex-CIA operative who is on Obama’s payroll?


95 posted on 01/02/2009 12:26:04 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: traderrob6; reaganaut1
So you believe him to be a “natural born citizen” And if so, what evidence exists to convince you that is the case?

No. He just believes he's smarter and wiser than the Founders and most of the people on this forum.
96 posted on 01/02/2009 12:26:05 PM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: traderrob6; reaganaut1
So you believe him to be a “natural born citizen” And if so, what evidence exists to convince you that is the case?

No. He just believes he's smarter and wiser than the Founders and most of the people on this forum.
97 posted on 01/02/2009 12:26:29 PM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

The issue is going to continue to be swept aside, the powers that be in either party are not going to offer resistance. Clearly Obama has a reason for not producing a BC and with a cool million spent to keep up the resistance he’s not going to produce one. He and his party are going to continue the incremental steps toward socialism, the incremental steps to the abandonment of our Constitution, little baby steps that destroy everything bit by bit,that is what we can not allow. We probably can’t force a fight that will stop him now, but we can fight him every foot of the way as he advances toward socialism. And over the next four years we can make sure people understand what he has done, what he is doing, to the Constitution and even though we can’t change the minds of the rabid Obamatrons we can make a lot of ordinary citizens take a second and third look and maybe then we can make a difference.


98 posted on 01/02/2009 12:26:47 PM PST by Taichi (Certe, toto, sentio nos in kansate non iam adesse)
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To: mquinn
Wanting this tinfoil gibberish to be over and done with on the FR has nothing to do with the DU, sonny.

Whatever you say, newb.

99 posted on 01/02/2009 12:26:53 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: mquinn; little jeremiah

As far as the sane people around here are concerned, this is a fringe nutjob story,
***Can you name one fringe nutjob issue that has had 5 concurrent cases before the SCOTUS, 3 of which were forwarded for conference, and more than 10 more on the horizon? No you can’t, because this is not a fringe story. So get lost, certifiGate troll.


100 posted on 01/02/2009 12:27:59 PM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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