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To: CharacterCounts
Actually, there ARE some subsidized housing projects where the local authorities have evicted people for drug abuse or other criminality by tenants and their families. Your analogy is precisely wrong.

Some of you may not know that a normal provision of parole is an automatic consent to all searches concerning whether the person is abiding the other conditions of parole.

To the person who said he "didn't understand my argument," Any time that the government ALLOWS you to do something that you don't have an absolute right to do, the government can place conditions, including a consent to a blood alcohol test and a license revocation if you refuse.

The bottom line is that your arguments are based on the FALSE assumption that driving a car is a right rather than a privilege. In any federal or state court that position will be slapped down in a heartbeat.

Whether you like it or not, that is the law. And it's not gonna change. Live with it. Get hot and bothered about things you can do something about. This isn't it.

John / Billybob

102 posted on 12/31/2008 4:25:53 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Latest book: www.AmericasOwnersManual.com)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Spoken as a true ruler/elitist. Remember Comrades; All animals are created equal, but some animals (like politicians) are more equal than others.


120 posted on 12/31/2008 4:44:28 PM PST by Camel Joe ("All animals are created equal, but some animals are more equal than others"- The Pigs)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Whether you like it or not, that is the law. And it's not gonna change.

Kelo is the law of the land, too. Doesn't mean it's right or that we should not resist it.

I was called to federal jury duty right after US v. Watts was handed down in 1997, and the case had similarities to Watts, which, IMO, legalized double jeopardy. During voir dire, I told the judge that, if there was a vote to accquit on the more serious charge, I would be compelled to accquit on the less serious charge despite the evidence. The judge tried but could not fault my reasoning. Five years later, SCOTUS basically reversed Watts.

You have to stand up to this stuff wherever you can. I respect your opinion about the current realities of the court. But I cannot accept that reality.

138 posted on 12/31/2008 5:05:21 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: Congressman Billybob
Actually, there ARE some subsidized housing projects where the local authorities have evicted people for drug abuse or other criminality by tenants and their families. Your analogy is precisely wrong.

And there are some who were smacked down by the court when they took it a step too far. The CHA comes to mind. Not so much the conditions, as the enforcement of the conditions is where the injustice is found here. It turns out that even in public housing the first, fourth, fifth amendments apply, even if not specifically mentioned in the lease.

159 posted on 12/31/2008 5:33:08 PM PST by Seven plus One
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To: Congressman Billybob
Get hot and bothered about things you can do something about. This isn't it.

I'm disappointed that you think we can't do anything about the preservation of liberty.

246 posted on 12/31/2008 7:02:50 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Congressman Billybob

First “Privilege”, now “Allow”. I’m beginning to wonder if you’re really a conservative.

The US government can no more “allow” than it can grant priveleges.

I have a RIGHT to build a factory on land that I own. The fact that the city of San Francisco can prohibit me from building a factory within their city limits does NOT mean that that Fresno county is ‘allowing’ me to build a factory because they DON’T prohibit it.


249 posted on 12/31/2008 7:05:17 PM PST by PhilosopherStones
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