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The DUI Exception to the Constitution
DUI Blog ^ | 2005 | Lawrence Taylor (not the Linebacker)

Posted on 12/31/2008 2:53:07 PM PST by Ron Jeremy

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To: Ron Jeremy

I’ve read it all and the moral is don’t drink and drive BUT if you do, don’t get caught in a general roadblock with the smell of alcohol on your breath or with slurred speech.
OK?


601 posted on 01/01/2009 7:57:05 PM PST by noah (noah)
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To: nobama08

Sorry. Meant to include Dred Scott in my previous list of decisions that must be right cause SCOTUS made ‘em.


602 posted on 01/01/2009 7:58:25 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Still Thinking

You can’t argue with the courts, that’s all. If you want to have driving declared a right, fine by me. As for what your ass is made of, I doubt the court will be taking that one up any time soon.


603 posted on 01/01/2009 8:01:19 PM PST by nobama08
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604 posted on 01/01/2009 8:04:42 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: nobama08

Sorry. I think I missed the point of your post. I thought you were saying “It must be a privilege rather than a right because some judges said so, the history and logic of the issue notwithstanding” and I take it you meant “Since some liberty impaired judges said so, it’s prudent to behave as if it were a privilege”. If so, sorry for the high horse.


605 posted on 01/01/2009 8:05:15 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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606 posted on 01/01/2009 8:05:44 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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607 posted on 01/01/2009 8:06:44 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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608 posted on 01/01/2009 8:09:41 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Still Thinking

LOL - I think we’re on the same side but you believe you can fight the courts and I don’t. Stare decisis and all that, you know.


609 posted on 01/01/2009 8:12:57 PM PST by nobama08
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To: Ron Jeremy

I sat on a jury a few years ago. It was a case in a small town where the police don’t have a lot to do. They were aware of a party, picked somebody to follow as he left it, found an excuse to stop him, and he “blew over the limit”.

We (the jury) decided for the defense. Without going into long detail, we felt the prosecutor didn’t really make his case.

After we were released by the judge, the arresting officer followed us to the parking lot. Once we were outside the courthouse, he stopped some of us and said “I want you to know that as soon as the jury was taken out of the courtroom the defendant turned and high-fived his buddies and said Let’s go to the bar!”

I said to the officer, “Now there’s nothing illegal about that is there?”

I look over my shoulder all the time now. And I don’t drink.

The policeman was clearly trying to intimidate us, not in an official capacity, perhaps, but he was in uniform and left in a squad car.


610 posted on 01/01/2009 8:17:29 PM PST by motor_racer (Open war is upon you, whether you would risk it or not.)
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To: nobama08

Nothing I’ve posted was intended as a commentary on the practicality of fighting the courts, but a lot of people refer to court decisions as if they made something true or false, rather than just legally binding. This issue is the perfect example. So my position is “For now, until we get some government serpents with their head OUTSIDE their ass, it would be smart to behave as if driving were a privilege.” I think that’s the same point you’re making.


611 posted on 01/01/2009 8:17:32 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: motor_racer
After we were released by the judge, the arresting officer followed us to the parking lot. Once we were outside the courthouse, he stopped some of us and said "I want you to know that as soon as the jury was taken out of the courtroom the defendant turned and high-fived his buddies and said Let’s go to the bar!"

Apparently convicting an innocent man is a small price to pay to keep people from going to bars to celebrate a victory over tyranny. Doh! If I weren't afraid he'd do the same to me, I'd have said "Hmmm. That sounds like a great idea. I think I'll join them! Thanks for letting me know!"

612 posted on 01/01/2009 8:22:48 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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613 posted on 01/01/2009 8:36:59 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Dude, that’s just not right.


614 posted on 01/01/2009 8:47:45 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Still Thinking

Probably not.

But I like Ron.

I’m not here to be PC.


615 posted on 01/01/2009 8:52:09 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Congressman Billybob; Ron Jeremy; bamahead
I say that as someone who practiced 33 years in the US Supreme Court. This is a lot of effort for no legitimate purpose.

Cut the crap. You have written 18 (at last count) Amicus Briefs that were entered into the record. Why don't you tell us when you have personally argued a case before the US Supreme Court? Reason is that you never have.

Any moron can write an Amicus Brief before SCOTUS. Lots of them have.

616 posted on 01/01/2009 8:53:14 PM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord

A much more important question is how did you make the different color in your post?

What’s the html command?


617 posted on 01/01/2009 9:02:42 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
The hard way to win a Supreme Court case is Emergency Relief under the Court's rules. Those cases are NEVER argued. You file your papers, and you win or lose on those. My first win in the Court was McCarthy v. Briscoe, September, 1976, granting Emergency Relief.

You can either find the case. Or you can look up 26 of my cases in the American Bar Association Journal, July, 1977. page 1108, et seq. That was, of course, a brief on the merits, not an amicus brief.

As for amicus briefs, there may be only one case in the history of the Court where such a brief was the only one filed by anyone in the case that got the answer right. Look up Bush v. Gore, December, 2000, and compare my brief with the Court's unanimous decision in Round I.

Or try Anderson v. Celebrezze, 1983. How many times does the majority in a Supreme Court case cite with approval in its opinion one particular amicus brief as dispositive? That's damned rare. Try footnote 14 in that case, and then find out who wrote that brief.

If you are a lawyer, you are incompetent. If you are a layman, you are merely ignorant, rude, and not especially good at doing research on the Internet.

Don't bother to apologize.

Happy New Year.

John / Billybob

618 posted on 01/01/2009 9:24:19 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Latest book: www.AmericasOwnersManual.com)
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord

Probabaly the quickest and easiest way to stop the madness is to make it Mandatory Jail Time with no Fines, this in and of itself would be such a Financial Burden, All checkpoints would be halted forever.

My friends and I have been waiting for the right moment to get into an Accident with some of the Patrons at our local Bar, All Cops and Judges. And it will happen. And yes it will be videotaped. They will goto Jail. Its gonna be fun.

Eyeamok


619 posted on 01/01/2009 10:28:18 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: FoxPro

Guilty, not guilty, incapable of guilt, respectively.


620 posted on 01/01/2009 10:52:26 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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