Posted on 12/31/2008 2:53:07 PM PST by Ron Jeremy
libertarian ping
Regardless of the issue do we want legislation driven by bereaved, emotionally fragile menopausal women?
If you are slight of build, or not a regular drinker, beware.
MADD and PETA, hard to tell them apart.
You know, I USED to be one of those. I see it all too clearly, now. :)
‘Nanny State Ping,’ if you’re around tonight...
At least PETA can't put you in jail...yet.
Me, too. About that and "domestic violence", child support and custody. That was before I saw what happened to friends and relatives...and me in the case of custody. I learned to listen to both sides.
I was in a jury pool once where the judge said “you don’t need to be over the limit to be guilty”. I never drive after even one drink.
The Speaker of the House would love to answer your question ;-)
DUI is bad.
UnConstituional “sobriety checkpoints” are WORSE.
But, is this — “There’s a DUI exception to the Fifth Amendment. There is no right to refuse and the prosecution can comment freely in trial upon that refusal.” — really a quote from the decision cited?
I am no libertarian, but I hate the way these laws (and the dead beat parent laws) are used to centralize what should be state decisions.
However, the author did himself no favor when he said “Hundreds of years ago a guy named Galileo said, ‘the universe is really not flat, the way Rome says it is’.”
The debate had to do with the Copernican theory, which had NOT yet been proved, and has nothing to do with the world being flat, but whether it rotates around the sun. Galileo got in more trouble for his attitude than for the theory itself. Copernicus himself remained in good standing with Rome.
Getting such a basic fact so wrong makes me question his characterization of his earlier examples. Nonetheless, I do agree with the principle of his argument, so the article was worth a read.
I say that as someone who practiced 33 years in the US Supreme Court. This is a lot of effort for no legitimate purpose.
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I think any drunk driver who hurts or kills another should have their crime viewed as “premeditated” or have the exact same damage done to their body that they did to others, including death if they killed an innocent.
If you choose to give up control, you’ve chosen to suffer the punishment you desired to give others, in my book.
It’s for the children.
That makes sense. Just don’t drink and drive. Not worth the risk.
You missed the point entirely. This is not about drunk driving; it’s about the overreaching Nanny State and being unconsititutionally framed by overzealous police.
Yeah, let’s all go live in a plastic bubble.
I got caught up in a roadblock a few years ago in South Boston. I had had a couple of beers at a restaurant but was absolutely not under the influence. Nevertheless, when the cop shined the flashlight in my face and asked me if I had had anything to drink, I lied to him and said that I had had nothing to drink. He then thanked me in waved me through.
My cop friend told me that if I had told him I had a couple of beers, there would have been a 100% chance of him pulling me out of my car (in front of my wife) and placing me under arrest for DUI.
To this day, I still feel crappy about lying to the police but I know the alternative would have been a night in jail and quite possibly a criminal record that would have precluded me from holding the job I have currently.
With respect to DUI's, this country really is a lot like Nazi Germany. Of course, all these roadblocks and sham DUI arrests of decent people who had the misfortune to have a glass of wine on the wrong night, do absolutely nothing to stem the true problem of drunken driving. People with an alcohol problem will continue to drink and drive regardless of the consequences. We hear all the time of people with multiple drunk driving arrests who go right back to it as soon as they are let out of jail. Even taking their license away doesn't stop them. Serial drunk drivers almost invariably also get charged for driving without a license!
If you really want to put a stop to drunk driving, do away with the roadblocks and the persecution of decent people and just put unmarked cruisers out on the highways or park them at bars and taverns. You will very quickly be able to identify the drunk drivers as those will be the ones swerving all over the place and being a menace to other drivers.
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