Posted on 12/31/2008 6:25:00 AM PST by mlizzy
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A private investigator in Hawaii has uncovered the divorce decree for Barack Obama's father and mother, which indicates they had "one child under the age of eighteen, born in Kenya." That is the report of Ed Hale of PlainsRadio.com, an Internet radio site which has focused upon the natural born Citizen challenges to Obama's presidential eligibility.
Hale announced this during his evening Internet broadcast on PlainsRadio.com, Tuesday, 12/30 and confirmed it with I.O. in an online interview, later that night. He reported that certified copies of this documentation have been sent from Hawaii by the investigator to himself and four others. Hale is to receive his copy today, Wednesday, 12/31 and plans to post it graphically on the site, during the day. He will also discuss this on a special Internet broadcast, between 6 pm and 10 pm Central Time, tonight. The site streams audio as soon as it is accessed via Web browser.
Link to PlainsRadio and their message forum
Link to PlainsRadio and chat window
The Texan Internet entrepreneur relates he got fed up with the lack of documentation on Obama and decided to discuss ideas with his radio audience. His offer to hire an investigator was met with piecemeal sums of money from listeners to his broadcasts. Hale said some of the information one would expect to find was not available. For example, documentation from Obama's mother Stanley Ann's divorce to her second husband, Lolo Soetoro, had vanished. Hale speculates, the reason this forthcoming 1964 divorce decree had not also been "scrubbed" could be that the divorce had been filed not by Obama's mother, but by Barack H. Obama, Sr. Thus, it may have been overlooked by any plumbers for Obama.
Hale does admit to incomplete certainty of his investigator's work until he receives it, partially due to the PI's accent, the telephone connection, and his slight hearing impediment. However, he is very confident of what he will receive during the day. Mark S. McGrew, who writes about Obama's natural born Citizen problems for Pravda.ru, accompanied Hale in his broadcast and also expressed confidence. McGrew had sought publication in numerous American news outlets, but they turned down his articles referring to Obama's apparent ineligibility. Russia's Pravda however, decided his effort to find and report the truth was not to be redlined.
As often related, Barack Obama, due simply to his U.K. citizenship at birth via his Kenyan father, is not a natural born Citizen of America, by definition and the original intent of that term. The Supreme Court has turned down cases which make this point, but according to a September decision in a lower federal court (regarding John McCain's eligibility problem), this would be due to a question of jurisdiction, until Congress is to certify the Electoral College vote on January 8. Further action is to occur, after this date. You may read about this in previous I.O. articles and the sites linked in its sidebar.
Meanwhile, on the question of Obama's place of birth, professionals dealing with documents and forensic evidence have testified that the online "certificate of live birth" provided by Obama is not identifiable evidence of American birth. Now, if Obama's parents' divorce decree states that he was born in Kenya (as his Kenyan grandmother has repeatedly stated), the second epistemological wheel is coming off his vehicle to the White House.
Will Congress pay attention and do its Constitutional duty?
© Arlen Williams
You said — Do you have evidence that Barack Obama Sr. is not Obama’s father? Do you have evidence that Barack Obama Sr. was NOT a Kenyan Colony citizen at the time of Obama’s birth? If not, there is nothing to be “verified”.
Well, Berg said in his case to the courts that there are no laws requiring this. And he says that this is the problem.
I’m saying that this is the problem, too. And until you get those state laws, you’re going to continue to have this same problem. It won’t do you any good to run after something you seem to have no ability to enforce — and Berg actually says that in his own case.
The people who want this thing “proven” are going to have to get those state laws on the books in order to prevent this from happening again...
You said — “Laughing at you. There you go again with six pages of gibberish that no one will read.”
Ummm..., you should see Berg’s court papers, then... LOL...
But, aside from Berg’s court papers, if no one is reading the information about how Berg and Chief Editor Korir and Ed Hale are all connected together and in relation to the Black Socratic Methodology — that could be why many people are so misled...
You said — “And still you spin. I didn’t say you made it up. I said you found a new way to spin this.”
Well..., I don’t call letting people know who is connected all together with this, and can be found out easily by looking into it — is “spinning”.
I would be willing to bet that hardly a person here knew about Chief Editor Korir’s Black Socratic Methodology. Maybe a few other might have known that Berg was Chief Editor Korir “US lawyer” or maybe not. And I’m not sure how many knew that Ed Hale was involved with Chief Editor Korir.
So, I’m sure it’s all very interesting to a lot of people who peruse the forum, in any case. I would rather “be informed” on these details than be “left in the dark” and not know these details....
Needs to increase the Tourettes’ meds. The constant “LOL”s are like Tourettes while typing.
What happened to you support the constitution rap?
So you must be what 17 and getting paid minimum wage by the Obamanoid leaders.
You said — “Star Traveler, no matter how much you try to cloud the issue by writing six pages of gibberish in hopes of confusing someone, SCOTUS has not, repeat, not thrown out the cases. They will meet January 9, 2009 and again January 16, 2009.”
I didn’t say they threw out the cases. It was denied for the injunction. It’s still to be determined whether they will even “hear” the case for Berg’s “standing”.
Furthermore, the case with the retired officer is speculative, in that any of the information presented, has not been confirmed by any court and the Supreme Court wouldn’t be in a position to verify it. And furthermore, they’ve already indicated a reluctance to interfere with the election by refusing to order an “injunction” — so they are unlikely by the same thinking to interfere with an injunction with this retired officer — much less the fact that they’ll probably think that he can come back *if* he ever gets recalled (since he’s currently retired).
In addition — even if Berg gets all he wanted — nothing happens except that Berg goes back to the lower court and simply starts all over again (i.e., he gets a hearing from that court and then the court decides for him or against him). And Berg is still no closer to stopping anything that Obama does.
And if this isn’t about stopping Obama, I don’t know what it’s about, then... LOL...
The way to stop Obama is to get those state laws in place that prevents this kind of thing happening in the next presidential election...
There are 23 cases one of which involves Berg. And who Berg knows has no bearing on the merits of the issues involved.
It’s called spinning, slight of hand.
You have stopped addressing the issue and now resort to attacking the messengers.
This sounds a lot like the Norwegian time release of tapes a couple of months ago. Michelle Obama made some remark to a Kenyan paper, don't remember the specifics, that was recorded & guaranteed to torpedo the anointed ones election bid. Still waiting ...
You said — “What happened to you support the constitution rap?”
That’s why we need to beef up the process and make sure that there are laws to support the Constitution. Berg says, in his court case, that there are no laws that require Obama to prove the things that we want him to prove. I believe what Berg said is true.
Thus, that’s why state laws need to be put into effect to make sure that we don’t have the same thing happen again in the next Presidential election. Now..., that’s what I call supporting the Constitution... (and since Berg has already admitted that we don’t have laws to enforce this, it’s all the more reason...)
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You said — “So you must be what 17 and getting paid minimum wage by the Obamanoid leaders.”
Ummm..., would age have anything to do with it? LOL...
But, no, quite old and have been around enough to see a lot of foolish things, that for sure... But, I’ve already answered that same thing about supposedly being paid by Obama. I said it was like the Global Warming “critics” (who disagree with Gore) being accused of being paid by big oil and big coal and such... LOL..
That’s always the “retort” when people start to get irritated with you. I could list a few others, like (of course, what you just said) ... age, troll, Obama supporter, RINO, Democrat, idiot, liar, and on and on...
It generally starts deteriorating when people get close to the truth of the matter...
You said — “This sounds a lot like the Norwegian time release of tapes a couple of months ago. Michelle Obama made some remark to a Kenyan paper, don’t remember the specifics, that was recorded & guaranteed to torpedo the anointed ones election bid. Still waiting ... “
Exactly so. This is what I was pointing out. In fact, there is a connection between API (African Press International) and Chief Editor Korir, along with Ed Hale and Berg (of Supreme Court fame). They were all involved in the Michelle Obama tape that said Obama was born in Kenya...
Amazing...
Okay, ST - I clicked the one of the links about this guy who supposedly is punishing stupid people by making up bad stuff about 0bama and we’re all falling for it.
The link you provided:
http://americanfearselection2008.wordpress.com/
Has nothing whatsoever about 0bama or anything slightly related to the topic, it has a bunch of videos posted by a guy named “Jimmy” about Zimbabwe cholera, starving children, and so on.
All I can say is “WTF”??
And since you pepper all your comments with mirth and jollity as evidenced by constant “LOL”s, apparently the presidency of the worst thug/marxist/liar/fraud/financed by dark behind the scene powers is a lark and a joke to you. Fun and games. Just like another poster - MilSpec someone or other. The fact that this causes you people amusement is extremely telling.
You know, I think what you two are posting is probably really funny, but I can’t be sure. You see, I’m blind in one eye and I can’t see out of the other one. Then my PC clock broke during the Y2K rollover and now it blinks 12:00...12:00...12:00 in huge purple font at random intervals on my monitor, which is heavily pixalated due to the fact that my dog tried to eat it on New Year’s Eve. The whole thing is quite distracting really, and I can’t quite make out what you fellows are writing. Could you stake a fellow American to a cheap used monitor, and paypal me a couple bucks so I can LOL with you? Thanks!
You said — “There are 23 cases one of which involves Berg. And who Berg knows has no bearing on the merits of the issues involved.”
As I said, I used “for example” — in saying anything about Berg. And I also said, there are always “unwitting accomplices” in anything like this. So, I think that covers it fairly well.
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You said — “It’s called spinning, slight of hand.”
You just can’t make up this stuff. It’s so crazy that one has to think it’s totally made up — except — it’s all true. You can find all sorts of stuff about Chief Editor Korir and what was happening when it was going on and that he said he had the Michelle Obama tape that said Obama was born in Kenya. And also that Berg was the US lawyer for Chief Editor Korir. And also that Ed Hale was connected in that he was going to sue Chief Editor Korir because he wouldn’t give him the tape to air on his show...
You just can’t make this stuff up... LOL..
AND..., to let people know that this is exactly what happened is not attacking the messenger, it’s letting everyone know exactly who did what and how they fit together. And in addition, people should be fully aware that Chief Editor Korir was subscribing to the Dark Socratic Methodology in order to “punish fools” and let them know that they have been punished. This is not me..., this is the ole “chief editor” himself.
So, you have to wonder what happened with Berg and Hale in the process...
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You finally said — “You have stopped addressing the issue and now resort to attacking the messengers.”
No, this *is* the issue — in that the Dark Socratic methodology is apparently what is being “pulled over” on everyone. *That* — is — the message...
See what Chief Editor Korir pointed to — so you can see what he was doing...
I am Dark Socrates
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45Ht4s3KaoA&;
You can see for yourself...
This is an interesting and extremely important issue for the status of the Constitutional contract We The People hold with the federal authority. The SCOTUS should--at minimum--define what 'natural born citizen' means the way the framers used it in definiing Constitutional eligibility.
It may be that the SCOTUS will rule waht was the meaning and then cite the evolution of changes in meaning which make it--in their eyes--more important that the peopel ahev voted someone intot he office. This will of course not take into account that we the people were deceived by the candidate, manipulated with silnece from the fifth column enemedia, and railroaded into accepting a tacit change to the Constitution which did not happen by the prescribed means stated in the Constitutional contract. THAT is why I have been stating that this issue could abrogate the contract if not dealt with adequately.
There are agitprops fromt he obamanoid goon squad working FR dialy, on every BC thread, spinning, lying, seeking to obfuscate the fatcs, and ridiculing anyone bold enough to question or oppose the affirmativea ction fraud. Obama committed purhery on his application for the IL Bar, he posted a forgery as BC evidence and collected hundreds of millions of dollars using false qualifications and forged documents (the Selective Service document is also forged according to expert analysis).
The most immediate response to such allegations as Ive made is 'who's this expert that analysized documents' or 'not a single accusation has ever been upheld in a court of law' and variations on that obfuscation theme. It's spin, Ron, and it's being carried out because the most powerful job in the world is at stake to be controlled by powers that we cannot even fathom! And a man who has gamed one system and set of rules after another his whole life is now demanding that he be givena pass as an affirmative action racial quota candidate. He can shove his race up his nasty lying butt, it doesn't change the truth that he has committed purjery and posted forged documents in oder to scam the world into pormoting him to a position he lusts after but is probably not eligible for ... he just demands, as a racially positioned affirmative action candidate, to be allowedf to ascend. You can see the same attitude at work int he Blago/black senator issue braindead Black Panther Bobby Rush is playing. Obama is taking it to a much higher level of scam.
Meant to ping you, also, Sir.
Meant to ping you, also, sorry.
Oh noze! Don't tell me you missed this Sinclair update thread a few days ago? It's another classic...
Wish it were that easy. When the head reads “to be revealed today” it makes a great teaser...but you have to LOOK at the info to find out that it is bogus. I came here looking for time, source, details, etc., and quickly discover that it is nothing. By the way, this is the day AFTER the supposed announcement was to take place...we should all be jumping with joy at finally seeing documentation of Barry’s birth.
Nope. Nothing.
You said — “Has nothing whatsoever about 0bama or anything slightly related to the topic, it has a bunch of videos posted by a guy named “Jimmy” about Zimbabwe cholera, starving children, and so on.”
This Chief Editor Korir and the API (African Press International) with their Michelle Obama tape that said Obama was born in Kenya — is something that has been going on since before the election.
A lot of people thought that it was going to be released to the public before the election, but it was delayed and delayed and finally — given over to Obama (supposedly).
At the end Chief Editor Korir put this up as what was important for people to know. In the meantime, all the while, there were lots of people saying that this was all a hoax (what the Chief Editor was doing). But many people were convinced it was true and they were trying to help the “editor” get his tape out to the American public.
You would have had to read all the “press releases” that the good ole Chief Editor Korir put out.
And, all the while, while that was going on — Berg signed on to be Chief Editor Korir’s lawyer in the US and he was intending on using this information in his Supreme Court case.
Along with that Ed Hale was insisting with Chief Editor Korir that he had a contract with him to publish the tape, on the air, on his show. So, they both got into a fight about that and Ed Hale threatened to sue Chief Editor Korir.
And on and on it went — all the way through December — until the chief let people know (through some IM messages, other people who worked with the Chief Editor) and the other blog he put up — that he wanted to “punish people” for being so foolish that they believed such a tale, that he was putting forth.
Anyway, Berg got involved and Ed Hale got involved and a lot of people got sucked in.
It turns out that this is appearing to be a “methodology” that is being “used” by the Obama people (as evidenced by one, i.e., the good ole Chief Editor Korir) to fool those who want to get rid of Obama.
So, either Ed Hale and Berg got sucked into it — or — they were part of it. I think they got sucked into it — along with a lot of other people who are also getting sucked into this “Dark Socratic methodology” that is being displayed here and that happened in this instance.
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As far as “games” are concerned — it would seem that others are playing games on the people here.
That’s the big problem that I see...
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