Posted on 12/31/2008 6:25:00 AM PST by mlizzy
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A private investigator in Hawaii has uncovered the divorce decree for Barack Obama's father and mother, which indicates they had "one child under the age of eighteen, born in Kenya." That is the report of Ed Hale of PlainsRadio.com, an Internet radio site which has focused upon the natural born Citizen challenges to Obama's presidential eligibility.
Hale announced this during his evening Internet broadcast on PlainsRadio.com, Tuesday, 12/30 and confirmed it with I.O. in an online interview, later that night. He reported that certified copies of this documentation have been sent from Hawaii by the investigator to himself and four others. Hale is to receive his copy today, Wednesday, 12/31 and plans to post it graphically on the site, during the day. He will also discuss this on a special Internet broadcast, between 6 pm and 10 pm Central Time, tonight. The site streams audio as soon as it is accessed via Web browser.
Link to PlainsRadio and their message forum
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The Texan Internet entrepreneur relates he got fed up with the lack of documentation on Obama and decided to discuss ideas with his radio audience. His offer to hire an investigator was met with piecemeal sums of money from listeners to his broadcasts. Hale said some of the information one would expect to find was not available. For example, documentation from Obama's mother Stanley Ann's divorce to her second husband, Lolo Soetoro, had vanished. Hale speculates, the reason this forthcoming 1964 divorce decree had not also been "scrubbed" could be that the divorce had been filed not by Obama's mother, but by Barack H. Obama, Sr. Thus, it may have been overlooked by any plumbers for Obama.
Hale does admit to incomplete certainty of his investigator's work until he receives it, partially due to the PI's accent, the telephone connection, and his slight hearing impediment. However, he is very confident of what he will receive during the day. Mark S. McGrew, who writes about Obama's natural born Citizen problems for Pravda.ru, accompanied Hale in his broadcast and also expressed confidence. McGrew had sought publication in numerous American news outlets, but they turned down his articles referring to Obama's apparent ineligibility. Russia's Pravda however, decided his effort to find and report the truth was not to be redlined.
As often related, Barack Obama, due simply to his U.K. citizenship at birth via his Kenyan father, is not a natural born Citizen of America, by definition and the original intent of that term. The Supreme Court has turned down cases which make this point, but according to a September decision in a lower federal court (regarding John McCain's eligibility problem), this would be due to a question of jurisdiction, until Congress is to certify the Electoral College vote on January 8. Further action is to occur, after this date. You may read about this in previous I.O. articles and the sites linked in its sidebar.
Meanwhile, on the question of Obama's place of birth, professionals dealing with documents and forensic evidence have testified that the online "certificate of live birth" provided by Obama is not identifiable evidence of American birth. Now, if Obama's parents' divorce decree states that he was born in Kenya (as his Kenyan grandmother has repeatedly stated), the second epistemological wheel is coming off his vehicle to the White House.
Will Congress pay attention and do its Constitutional duty?
© Arlen Williams
You said — “Second class mail was abolished over 40 years ago.”
That’s the kind of stuff that tripped up ole Chief Editor Korir over at API (African Press International) who said he had the Michelle Obama tape that admitted Obama was born in Kenya.
Oh..., and Ed Hale was involved with the ole Chief, too. AND..., of all people — so was Berg (of the Supreme Court case). Berg was the lawyer for ole Chief Editor Korir, here in the United States....
This is getting crazier by the minute...
You said — “thanks for the ping, looks like a hoax to me.”
Ummmm..., it looks like the same kind of stuff that came from Chief Editor Korir over at API (African Press International). Ed Hale was also involved with the “chief”, too.
In addition to that, Berg (of the Supreme Court case) was also Chief Editor Korir’s attorney, here in the United States. Berg was supposed to use the Michelle Obama tape (that admitted that Obama was born in Kenya) in his Supreme Court case, and he signed on as Chief Editor Korir’s attorney.
Now, it turns out, that Chief Editor Korir has basically admitted that the whole thing was a hoax and it did it so that he could “punish stupid people for believing stupid things...” LOL...
Isn’t it odd that all these people are connected together. I would say that Ed Hale learned a few things from his association with Chief Editor Korir...
“sport” said — “Won’t matter. The fix is in and has been in for a long time.”
From the looks of it, it seems that is clear. I’ve been saying that state laws need to be passed to prevent this from happening again (re: vetting the candidate, precisely and according to statute). But, there are people here (some) who want to invent such crazy ideas of how they are going to get Obama out of office. They just don’t make any sense.
The only thing that does make sense is their *desire* to get him out of office, but they’ve lost all connection to *reality* and invent such crazy ideas that they think are going to work that have no basis in reality. It’s quite amazing to see such a “melt-down” of common sense...
Might be. But I am not giving up and will never give up fighting for our Constitution and free Republic. The most important thing is that WHOMEVER is President they must meet the constitutional requirements.
If it does turn out that Obama is sworn in on January 20th he will still be plagued with questions and law suits concerning his constitutional qualifications to hold office. This issue is NOT GOING AWAY!
Obama is a fraud and has had great support in continuing to deceive many of the unknowing public. But there are 58 million of us who know the truth!
Obama does not qualify to hold the Office of President and he knows it. The DNC, RNC, and everyone else in Government knows it. He is NOT a natural born citizen, period. Nor is John McCain as he was born in Colon, Panama not on US soil or US territory. Resolution 511 to give McCain a pass is only that, a Resolution. It is not an amendment to the Constitution and therefore not law. The Resolution even states one must be born of US “citizens” (2) to be considered a “natural born” citizen. Obama’s father was Kenyan/British subject not a US citizen. So no matter WHERE Obama was born, he is still NOT a “natural born” citizen.
But then, we really do not know where he was born do we? So what if it is Kenya? That would mean Obama ONLY meets the age requirement to be President. That isn't enough!
The video below explains it very well. Hope all doubters will at least take the time to watch it and learn.
Happy New Year.
The video below explains it very well. Hope all doubters will at least take the time to watch it and learn.
Happy New Year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEnaAZrYqQI
How do you know that for sure? I mean, I question it, but how do you know that as a fact?
Nor is John McCain as he was born in Colon, Panama not on US soil or US territory.
I agree that is where he was born, but he was born to two US citizens, so that is not an issue.
That was enlightening to say the least. Didn't he have on his own website that he held dual citizenship at birth? I don't think he is eligible without chucking the Constitution. What is wrong with the Supremes?
IN addition his mafia lemmings scrub the web continuously of anything his crime family does not like and gets pass after pass from the DBM. Yes, its dam frustrating!
So if we put out some stuff that ordinarily we would not post its out of sheer frustration that no one is holding this assholes feet to the fire over anything!!!
I always thought that API ordeal was a hoax. It was so obvious. I wouldn't be surprised if Obama was in on it to make people look dumb and distract them from searching for the real truth.
“That was enlightening to say the least. Didn’t he have on his own website that he held dual citizenship at birth? I don’t think he is eligible without chucking the Constitution. What is wrong with the Supremes?”
I believe like many others do that the SCOTUS will step in after January 8th if Congress gives Obama a pass. Congress is to uphold the constitution and if they do nothing to verify Obama’s qualifications to hold office, they are not doing their duty.
I have to trust the SCOTUS until I see them ignore taking action after January 8th. If Congress does act, then SCOTUS will not need to take action. Just my opinion.
Do you have a little documentation on that last post? How bout a link?
fair enough
From an eMail; might be of interest:
“If the House certifies the electoral votes on Jan 8, then every single US Citizen will have standing to challenge the legitimacy of Obama’s presidency.
“The Supreme Court scheduled two conferences: one, on Jan 9 (a day after the House meets to certify the Electoral College votes), is to hear Phil Berg’s writ of certiori which will be approved as a mere formality if the House certifies the Electoral vote count thus paving the way to hear the main event: Berg’s injunction to stay the results until Obama proves his eligibility.
“If Obama fails to provide his credentials before taking the Oath of Office, Supreme Court (SCOTUS) will then overturn the election results.
“SCOTUS deliberately chose the day after the House meets on the oft-chance that the House will do the right thing and stay the certification pending Obama’s proof of eligibility. If he fails to do so, then they can invalidate the results.
“If they certify the vote, then SCOTUS is also prepared, as they have scheduled the conference on the injunction on Jan 16 — four days before the swearing in of the President — to trap Obama, who will have no choice but to present his credentials.
“If he fails to prove his qualifications, then SCOTUS can invalidate the election.
“If that does not happen; meaning, if Obama is allowed to walk free from this, then from the moment he recites the “pledge to uphold the constitution,” he becomes guilty of perjury and has no validity, whatsoever, to serve as President.
“Our armed forces are already pledged to uphold and defend the Constitution, meaning they should, and will, refuse to follow any orders he might give as a bogus Commander-in-Chief.
“The floodgates on personal lawsuits against the President will have been opened, and anyone suffering any kind of damages, be they financial, physical, psychological, educational, medical, and all sorts of civil rights violations, will have been opened, and effectively handcuffing the President from acting as President.”
My words:(He is NOT a natural born citizen, period.)
“How do you know that for sure? I mean, I question it, but how do you know that as a fact?” A “natural born” citizen is one who is born on US soil AND born of 2 US citizens.
Lets say Obama was born in HI. Great, he was then born on US soil which makes him a citizen....but not “natural born” citizen. To be “natural born” both of his parents HAD to be citizens. His mom was, his father was not.
My words: (Nor is John McCain as he was born in Colon, Panama not on US soil or US territory.)
“I agree that is where he was born, but he was born to two US citizens, so that is not an issue.” Yes it is an issue. His parents were BOTH US citizens, which means McCain IS a citizen.....but he is NOT a “natural born” citizen because he was NOT born on US soil. Colon, Panama was not US soil or US base, or US territory.
Bottom line is the TWO requirements of being considered “natural born”. The video below explains it best. The two are: Born on US soil AND of US citizen parents. Example. Two people could come to the US from Kenya. Become US citizens, and then give birth to a child. The child could grow up to be President because he/she was born on US soil to parents who were US citizens at the time of birth. The parents MUST be citizens.....but don’t have to be “natural born” themselves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEnaAZrYqQI
Wow, this could be very explosive!
Bump!
If it doesn’t come from the API, I ain’t buying it.
You said — “I always thought that API ordeal was a hoax. It was so obvious. I wouldn’t be surprised if Obama was in on it to make people look dumb and distract them from searching for the real truth.”
Ole “Chief Editor Korir” has now locked up all the previous articles and posts on the Michelle Obama tape (where she admitted that Obama was born in Kenya). You can no longer get to those articles (at least it was locked up the last time I checked, a few days ago).
Before he locked up everything, he said that he had a meeting with Obama (or Obama’s people) and turned over the Michelle Obama tape to him (and/or his people). Chief Editor Korir said it was the right thing for him to do. It was shortly after that article that he locked up everything — because, at that time, the tape issue was a dead issue (since he “gave it over to Obama”... LOL..).
But, Chief Editor Korir wasn’t about to go “silently into the night” without giving his “last kick” to the “stupid people” that he wanted to “punish” for believing such stupid things as he was saying.
He posted on another blog he created, the “Dark Socrates” methodology, which basically explains that you need to *punish stupid people* and make them know that they’ve been punished. So, that’s what Chief Editor Korir did in the end...
LOL..
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Now, the interesting thing is that Berg (of the Supreme Court case) is/was associated with Chief Editor Korir, and so was Ed Hale. So, it’s very interesting that Ed Hale is learning the techniques of Chief Editor Korir... :-)
See the other blog of Chief Editor Korir at — http://americanfearselection2008.wordpress.com/
Note the one at the bottom, that he posted and said — ******PAY CLOSE ATTENTION*******
He’s letting you know that he’s *punishing the idiots for believing him*... LOL...
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It references the “methodology” of punishing the idiots for believing a ridiculous story, which is the following video...
I am Dark Socrates
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45Ht4s3KaoA&;
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Now, it appears that the Obamites are saavy in Internet stuff and boards and rumor-mills and so on — so that the Obamites are creating this whole “Obama qualification issue” strictly for the sake of “punishing idiots” (as they think of them...).
I would say that this is what is going on here — with the Obama qualification issue...
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