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As if Things Weren't Bad Enough, Russian Professor Predicts End of U.S.
WSJ ^ | DECEMBER 29, 2008 | By ANDREW OSBORN

Posted on 12/29/2008 6:34:55 AM PST by balls

MOSCOW -- For a decade, Russian academic Igor Panarin has been predicting the U.S. will fall apart in 2010. For most of that time, he admits, few took his argument -- that an economic and moral collapse will trigger a civil war and the eventual breakup of the U.S. -- very seriously. Now he's found an eager audience: Russian state media.

Igor Panarin In recent weeks, he's been interviewed as much as twice a day about his predictions. "It's a record," says Prof. Panarin. "But I think the attention is going to grow even stronger."

Prof. Panarin, 50 years old, is not a fringe figure. A former KGB analyst, he is dean of the Russian Foreign Ministry's academy for future diplomats. He is invited to Kremlin receptions, lectures students, publishes books, and appears in the media as an expert on U.S.-Russia relations.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Russia
KEYWORDS: america; coldwar2; igorpanarin; kgb; nwo; panarin; predictions; putin; russia; sovietunion; usa; ussr
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To: USNBandit

You said — “The major flaw in his theory is that the U.S. isn’t a dictatorship with forced migration of one ethnicity into areas dominated by another. With the exception of Native Americans (a really small minority) you also don’t have the long term history of conflict that you see in most of those communist nations.”

Ummm.., well the Indians are already “breaking away” claiming that their treaty as a sovereign nation was violated and they are returning to their sovereign nation status... LOL...


41 posted on 12/29/2008 7:05:17 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: balls

If something as abominably deficient of morality and economic sanity as the Russian “federation” can survive in any form, then the USA has not much to worry about.


42 posted on 12/29/2008 7:05:56 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: USNBandit

Here are a couple of links for the breakaway Republic...

http://www.republicoflakotah.com/

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/12/lakota-withdraw.html


43 posted on 12/29/2008 7:08:13 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: stockpirate

“I will never cast my vote for the lesser of two evils.”

I’ve said this since Bush gave my money to the Malthusians wanting to experiment on babies they murdered. I voted for him again. Then I voted for McCain who I vowed to never vote for back in 2000. The draw to vote against leftist bogeymen is too powerful.

I’m certain I wouldn’t vote for even the most conservative RINO, Tom Coburn. But I probably will. I’ll probably vote for the next sorry RINO, Jeb Bush, the RNC anoints as our candidate.


44 posted on 12/29/2008 7:08:39 AM PST by demshateGod (the GOP is dead to me)
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To: Tax-chick

I read a book once like that, I think it was made into a movie or TV show.
Interesting. Feel free to recommend more to me. :)


45 posted on 12/29/2008 7:08:44 AM PST by DeLaine (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. Jefferson)
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To: stockpirate
I voted for this socialist twice, I will never cast my vote for the lesser of two evils.

I won't either, but am very fearful from the signs in this election and the one going on in MN today, that we'll be fortunate to have fair elections again. Exposing the fraudulence of this election should be job #1 for any new GOP Chairman. If Mike Duncan gets back in as head of the GOP, it doesn't look good. Under his leadership, the GOP has done very, very little to expose this and attempt to change it.

46 posted on 12/29/2008 7:09:26 AM PST by AmericanGirlRising (Buying carbon credits will not get me into Heaven. I am second - http://iamsecond.com/#/home/)
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To: balls

Every state has been invaded by liberalism. To not be able to live together would mean one group would have to leave or each state be divided into a north and south.That would not leave much of a map to connect the the dots to join with other states. A true mess we are in.


47 posted on 12/29/2008 7:09:30 AM PST by CindyDawg (Lord, please bless America)
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To: DeLaine

Some authors: Daniel da Cruz, Harry Turtledove.


48 posted on 12/29/2008 7:11:44 AM PST by Tax-chick (You exist, okay? YOU EXIST! Now stop talking to me!)
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To: balls

I like that map alright. I don’t think that guy gets Americans in Flyover country though. In my office of about 50 people there’s only one homo that’d merge with Mexico, Canadistan, China, or the Europistan.


49 posted on 12/29/2008 7:12:55 AM PST by demshateGod (the GOP is dead to me)
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To: balls
Hawaii, he suggests, will be a protectorate of Japan or China, and Alaska will be subsumed into Russia.

"It would be reasonable for Russia to lay claim to Alaska; it was part of the Russian Empire for a long time."

From Saturday Night Live

Gov. Sarah Palin (Tina Fey): Every morning, when Alaskans wake up, one of the first things they do is look outside and see if there are any Russians hanging around. If there are, you gotta go up to them and ask, "What are ya' doing here?" And if they can't give you a good reason then, it's our responsibility to say, you know, "Shoo! Get back over there!"

It is also interesting that he plans for Canada (population 33 million) to absorb the north central states (population 73 million). I think for lunch I'll eat a whole bear, too.

50 posted on 12/29/2008 7:13:17 AM PST by KarlInOhio (11/4: The revolutionary socialists beat the Fabian ones. Where can we find a capitalist party?)
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To: Paige

“really think we Southerners will sit back and let Mexico take us over?”

We in Oklahoma saw it happening and put a stop to it.


51 posted on 12/29/2008 7:14:13 AM PST by demshateGod (the GOP is dead to me)
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To: balls

Yep, we always come back...


52 posted on 12/29/2008 7:14:32 AM PST by GOPJ (GM's market value is a third of Bed, Bath and Beyond. Why is GM "too big to fail"? Steyn)
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To: balls
For a decade, Russian academic Igor Panarin has been predicting the U.S. will fall apart in 2010. For most of that time, he admits, few took his argument -- that an economic and moral collapse will trigger a civil war and the eventual breakup of the U.S. -- very seriously.

The moral collapse has already occurred. That's already in the books and has been for some time.

The economic collapse will likely follow and we may be experiencing it right now.

Whether that leads to the breakup of the USA remains to be seen. It's not a given. We will either see the light and fall on our knees and repent and manage to resurrect this country or we will, as the "perfessa" says, sink into civil war and the union will disintegrate. The Constitution is long since dead. It's been twisted and misinterpreted so badly that it is essentially useless. It won't save us.

Stripping the name of God from all public buildings and public life and kicking Him out of schools (thanks, ACLU) effectively said "God not needed; we'll do this on our own, thanks."

We're about to see how well that strategy plays out. If history is any guide, it will be a train wreck. On the other hand, if we see the error of our ways in time, we may be able to turn it around.

53 posted on 12/29/2008 7:15:08 AM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future"- Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: TLI

“...Republic of Greater Texas can be free countries.

Texas + Oklahoma? ...”

Methinks we’ll have the Republic of the West. All of us in the states that actually produce things will abandon the coasts. Since they’re populated by metrosexual wimps, we can simply walk through to the coasts whenever we have the need.


54 posted on 12/29/2008 7:15:14 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: AnnGora

Living and growing in strength within the minds and hearts of the liberals of America.


55 posted on 12/29/2008 7:15:21 AM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: marshmallow

There is no future without God.

There is no future in or with liberalism nor liberals.


56 posted on 12/29/2008 7:16:56 AM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: EyeGuy

“And what makes you think, STILL largely comfortable Americans are going to heed any sort of “warning call””

Because they will soon not be so comfortable.

When they outlaw firearms only the government will have firearms.


57 posted on 12/29/2008 7:17:13 AM PST by stockpirate (Obama's COLB issue, where's Rush, Laura, Sean, Mark, Malkin & Ann?)
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To: Da Coyote
Methinks we’ll have the Republic of the West

That could work. When the majority voters of the Free Republics, West and South, cut off the welfare spigot, the unproductive will invade the Rump States of Socialism.

58 posted on 12/29/2008 7:18:36 AM PST by Tax-chick (You exist, okay? YOU EXIST! Now stop talking to me!)
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To: balls

“Wishfull thinking”

What was once inconceivable is now becoming a reality. Comments like yours just shows how far astray we really are.


59 posted on 12/29/2008 7:19:30 AM PST by Outlaw Woman (The light at the end of the tunnel is the headlamp of an oncoming train.)
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To: balls

I think he’s been reading to much from John Titor.

http://www.johntitor.com/


60 posted on 12/29/2008 7:20:11 AM PST by Lx
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