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The real scam is that the universities advance the whole scholar athlete bit just to avoid having to pay the talent in what amounts to a massively profitable professional sports operation.
1 posted on 12/29/2008 6:20:09 AM PST by Ron Jeremy
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

bump


2 posted on 12/29/2008 6:20:39 AM PST by Ron Jeremy (sonic)
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To: Ron Jeremy

Well, duh!!!!


4 posted on 12/29/2008 6:21:39 AM PST by devane617 (...And to the Republic For Which It Stood...)
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To: Ron Jeremy

I’m shocked. SHOCKED I tell you!!!


5 posted on 12/29/2008 6:21:55 AM PST by Hoodlum91 (There's a strange odor coming from the White House. Smells like BO.)
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To: Ron Jeremy

DUUHHHHH...


6 posted on 12/29/2008 6:22:43 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: Ron Jeremy

Based on the crap these students are ‘learning’ in these fine institutions of ‘higher’ learning, I would argue that the football programs rank among the most genuinely productive work taking place at these universities.


8 posted on 12/29/2008 6:24:54 AM PST by raptor29
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To: Ron Jeremy

I work with a guy who had a full athletic scholarship to Florida as a defensive end. He told me he wasn’t required to attend class at all. Someone did that for him. His attitude was that he was hired to do a job, play football. He didn’t have time for academics. I suspect this is the MO at most Universities with strong football programs in which case a high SAT score is meaningless anyway.


9 posted on 12/29/2008 6:25:50 AM PST by saganite
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To: Ron Jeremy

And now you know why they never put the crossword puzzle in the sports section of the newspaper.


10 posted on 12/29/2008 6:25:53 AM PST by conservativeharleyguy (Democrats: Over 60 million fooled daily!)
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To: Ron Jeremy

I hope no one was paid to do this “research”. I’ll bet the “researchers” had to do a lot of “research” in off-campus sports bars.


13 posted on 12/29/2008 6:46:25 AM PST by Seruzawa (Obamalama lied, the republic died.)
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To: Ron Jeremy

Ummmm..., I sorta think that doesn’t come as a surprise to a lot of people... :-)


16 posted on 12/29/2008 7:11:10 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Ron Jeremy

The Ohio State University football team pays for all of the PC, court ordered women’s “sports programs” plus a hell of a lot more. The physics department, on the other hand...
Yet every year, pinhead liberals and their useful idiot assistants complain about the violence of the game and the advantages given the players.


19 posted on 12/29/2008 7:43:56 AM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Ron Jeremy

The son of a friend of mine, a good student, got a 4-year football scholarship to Miami of Florida, even though he wasn’t very good in high school football. He told me he and others, who “rode the bench” for 4 years, were given scholarships to improve the average test scores and grades of the football team.

I’d imagine Miami isn’t the only college that pulls this scam.


20 posted on 12/29/2008 7:46:09 AM PST by CivilWarguy
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To: Ron Jeremy

Maybe this is a problem, and maybe it isn’t. Every non-athlete student is not majoring in mathematics and physics. So what if half the football team majors in criminology or communications?

But a school can have 85 football players on scholarship, and I guess 15 or so basketball players. Most schools with major programs have 15,000 - 50,000 students on campus. The 100 or so athletes on scholarship in the income producing sports do not taint the academic integrity of the entire institution. Lower SAT scores and the easier curricula and majors are to be expected from those who’ve spent more time on athletics than any other pursuit in their young lives.

And, there are still plenty of student-athletes who do meet or exceed the average SATs, and who do succeed in more difficult majors.


22 posted on 12/29/2008 7:58:44 AM PST by Will88
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I agree. Its gotten to the point where the NCAA is afraid of going after schools for recruiting violations. Its only a matter of time before they take on the wrong school and end up in Federal Court where a judge declares the NCAA a for profit institution subject to anti trust, and UCC.

I say spin off the Athletic departments and just make it a minor league team for the Pros’s. Pay the player etc.

John


23 posted on 12/29/2008 8:00:52 AM PST by Diggity
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It is time to complete separate team sports from academics. We should start this in pre-teen years.

* Team sports should be privatized and/or turned over to the county parks and recreation departments. The NEA will not favor this since team sport “rah rah” generates support for the government Marxist indoctrination camps in the voting booths. A government school monopoly on team sports also means that students must attend just to advance their talents.

* When you see a high school team please remember that this team is a taxpayer support farm team for the big leagues. It is time that the big leagues ran their own farm teams and got the taxpayer out of the business.

* On the college level, the teams should be run as a minor league team. Yes, it would have the name of the school but it should have **nothing** whatsoever to do with education . And...The players should be paid MONEY ( based on the free market) that they can spend anyway they want.

24 posted on 12/29/2008 8:04:54 AM PST by wintertime
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To: Ron Jeremy
It's because they are culturally biased. SATs are clearly more geared towards the "geeks" and "brains" crowds in the school and fail to account for the cultural differences of groups such as the "stoner" and "jock" groups. There need to be more questions like "Your team has been trailing 26-30. You just scored a touchdown to make the score 32-30. There are 2 minutes left on the clock in the 4th quarter. Should you a) Go for two (b) Take the extra point (c) Challenge the touchdown (d) Showcase your awesome touchdown dance
25 posted on 12/29/2008 8:05:48 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: Ron Jeremy

In the old days at least, the SAT was really an IQ test which should not have been influenced by achievement. Thus the lower SAT scores of athletes really just reflected the fact that they were for the most part “dumb jocks”. We had a star athlete in our high school whose SAT score qualified for MENSA though on the old SAT test, so may I say that all jocks are not dumb.

I remember kids in college who got into watered down class sections for athletes to boost their GPAs, though, so you can’t even compare GPAs of athletes and non athletes.


42 posted on 12/29/2008 8:50:07 AM PST by LongTimeMILurker
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To: Ron Jeremy
I'm suprised the AJC didn't call the SAT test 'racist'.

L

50 posted on 12/29/2008 9:36:47 AM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: Ron Jeremy

The president was asked why he dropped the school football program
“well, to win we would have to cheat.”
the year was around 1935.


54 posted on 12/29/2008 3:09:46 PM PST by genghis
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To: Ron Jeremy

A perfect illustration of why sports is useless and should NEVER, EVER be a part of the educational environment.


55 posted on 12/29/2008 11:18:41 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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