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As if Things Weren't Bad Enough, Russian Professor Predicts End of U.S.
Wall Street Journal ^ | December 29, 2008 | Andrew Osborn

Posted on 12/28/2008 11:19:03 PM PST by AZLiberty

MOSCOW -- For a decade, Russian academic Igor Panarin has been predicting the U.S. will fall apart in 2010. For most of that time, he admits, few took his argument -- that an economic and moral collapse will trigger a civil war and the eventual breakup of the U.S. -- very seriously. Now he's found an eager audience: Russian state media.

"There's a 55-45% chance right now that disintegration will occur," he says. "One could rejoice in that process," he adds, poker-faced. "But if we're talking reasonably, it's not the best scenario -- for Russia." Though Russia would become more powerful on the global stage, he says, its economy would suffer because it currently depends heavily on the dollar and on trade with the U.S.

Mr. Panarin posits, in brief, that mass immigration, economic decline, and moral degradation will trigger a civil war next fall and the collapse of the dollar. Around the end of June 2010, or early July, he says, the U.S. will break into six pieces -- with Alaska reverting to Russian control.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: disintegration; economy; igorpanarin; immigration; russia
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To: AZLiberty

If Obama turns out to be more bourgeois and less ideological, we will survive with a mere five million more murdered babies during the Obama administration.

If he goes really wild with the Marxism and Maoism, the U.S. could easily break up, because the U.S. government is ALREADY illegitimate. When the federal government FAILED to expel the states that legalized murdering babies, and then COMMANDED those states that wanted to protect babies to cease doing so, the U.S. government ceased to be a legitimate government. It has survived for 35 years merely because people don’t want to have a war over the issue.

But if Obama wants to, he can end the U.S., simply by trying to implement what he really believes.


21 posted on 12/29/2008 12:02:23 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

Why the heck are you turning this into an abortion thread? Get a grip.


22 posted on 12/29/2008 12:17:27 AM PST by DoneWithDems
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To: AZLiberty

And these nuts get published...


23 posted on 12/29/2008 12:22:20 AM PST by DB
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To: AZLiberty
the U.S. will fall apart in 2010.

a civil war next fall and the collapse of the dollar. Around the end of June 2010, or early July, he says, the U.S. will break into six pieces

Ignoring his claimed reasons of Immigration and Moral Decline, I find his Civil War prediction interesting.

Remember, he is KGB. And like the CIA infiltrating other countries and using Useful Idiots to get the ball rolling, it makes sense the KGB would do likewise. And in the US they'd have a welcome audience eager to Riot. And continue to riot.

So I'd be on the look out for subterfuge things that could help lead to a rioting situation. Rioting which would then be blamed on the reasons he mentioned, but which were already planned beforehand and just awaiting a scape goat.

24 posted on 12/29/2008 12:24:42 AM PST by Fluke Codewriter (Right is right, even if no-one is doing it. Wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.)
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To: AZLiberty

Hey, with Hussein at the helm, who knows?

We’ve sown the seeds.


25 posted on 12/29/2008 12:24:49 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: AZLiberty

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26 posted on 12/29/2008 12:43:15 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: AZLiberty

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27 posted on 12/29/2008 12:43:32 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: AZLiberty

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28 posted on 12/29/2008 12:43:55 AM PST by GOP Poet
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Gonna read it three times? ;-)

29 posted on 12/29/2008 12:45:38 AM PST by TChris (So many useful idiots...)
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To: DB

Yes, and in the Wall Street Journal.


30 posted on 12/29/2008 1:50:18 AM PST by AZLiberty (I hope Obama changes.)
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To: AZLiberty

Good luck getting anyone to take Maine.

31 posted on 12/29/2008 1:56:49 AM PST by billorites
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To: AZLiberty
Does anyone here have a hyperlink to a map of Russia, and the fragments into which it could likely break in the near future?

Regards,

32 posted on 12/29/2008 2:41:14 AM PST by alexander_busek
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To: billorites
...that an economic and moral collapse will trigger a civil war and the eventual breakup of the U.S

  On the bright side, I'll be living in the Texas Republic!
33 posted on 12/29/2008 2:49:03 AM PST by Maurice Tift (You can't stop the signal, Mal. You can never stop the signal.)
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To: AZLiberty
Now he's found an eager audience: Russian state media.

There's a bastion of credibility right there. < /s>

34 posted on 12/29/2008 2:50:12 AM PST by Allegra
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To: Maurice Tift

and I’m pretty sure that Mexico will be under the control of Texas.


35 posted on 12/29/2008 2:51:19 AM PST by Maurice Tift (You can't stop the signal, Mal. You can never stop the signal.)
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To: DoneWithDems

Abortion is the current national fault-line and slavery was the fault-line in the first war. This is very much an abortion thread.


36 posted on 12/29/2008 2:52:12 AM PST by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA or lose reelection)
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To: buccaneer81
Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia possibly joining the European Union?!

Right, everyone knows that Europe would stop at Northern Virginia.

I mean really, what an idiot this guy is.

37 posted on 12/29/2008 2:54:39 AM PST by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA or lose reelection)
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To: AZLiberty

This Russian phuckwit has had one too many snootfuls of vodka. Probably still pissed off at Gorbachump not doing more to preserve the old USSR.


38 posted on 12/29/2008 2:59:41 AM PST by mkjessup
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To: AZLiberty

Sounds like the professors in Russia are about as smart as the ones here. The leftists in our nation have been predicting the fall of the U.S. for some time too. Dream on you wankers...


39 posted on 12/29/2008 3:05:56 AM PST by DoughtyOne (I see that Kenya's favorite son has a new weekly Saturday morning radio show.)
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To: AZLiberty

Is this a prediction or a premeditated plan?


40 posted on 12/29/2008 3:14:39 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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