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HOW FAR-REACHING ARE PRESIDENTIAL EXECUTIVE ORDERS?
SELF | 12-23-08 | self

Posted on 12/23/2008 3:39:44 PM PST by Jerrybob

So I'm wondering just what the POTUS can and cannot do with executive orders. Could Obama, for example, to throw out a hypothetical, really wild example, sign an executive order that does away with the Concealed Carry laws in all the states that have them?

Just wondering.


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To: mkjessup

ROFL - Thanks! And Merry Christmas!


41 posted on 12/24/2008 8:19:51 AM PST by Enterprise (No Presidency for illegal aliens from Kenya.)
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To: Patrick1
No impact on private citizens or state law? You sure about that? What about the multitude of EO's that are CLASSIFIED in nature and therefore unpublished to the populace but still enacted under congressional scrutiny and actually survived that process. See I think there HAS to be a process by which order in maintained while suffering a cataclysmic incident, be it natural disaster or man made (American Hiroshima?).

Executive Orders associated with FEMA that would suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. These Executive Orders have been on record for nearly 30 years and could be enacted by the stroke of a Presidential pen:...

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10999 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation. General Frank Salzedo, chief of FEMA's Civil Security Division stated in a 1983 conference that he saw FEMA's role as a "new frontier in the protection of individual and governmental leaders from assassination, and of civil and military installations from sabotage and/or attack, as well as prevention of dissident groups from gaining access to U.S. opinion, or a global audience in times of crisis." FEMA's powers were consolidated by President Carter...

National Security Act of 1947 allows for the strategic relocation of industries, services, government and other essential economic activities, and to rationalize the requirements for manpower, resources and production facilities.

1950 Defense Production Act gives the President sweeping powers over all aspects of the economy.

Act of August 29, 1916 authorizes the Secretary of the Army, in time of war, to take possession of any transportation system for transporting troops, material, or any other purpose related to the emergency.

International Emergency Economic Powers Act enables the President to seize the property of a foreign country or national. These powers were transferred to FEMA in a sweeping consolidation in 1979.

42 posted on 12/24/2008 11:07:38 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: wastedyears
So would I. Why is no one doing this? It seems we (meaning NRA, GOA and all the other gun rights groups) wait until another draconian law is passed and then bring suit.

Why not sue the feds for infringing on our Second Amendment rights, which, after all, are not GIVEN by government at all, but are endowed by our Creator?

43 posted on 12/25/2008 8:52:52 AM PST by Jerrybob
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To: Jerrybob
Merry Christmas.

So would I. Why is no one doing this? It seems we (meaning NRA, GOA and all the other gun rights groups) wait until another draconian law is passed and then bring suit.

Not only must we wait for this process to run it's course but we must ALSO wait for somebody to run afoul of the law, be arrested and LOSE in court before an appeal can be filed and the law THEN challenged. Stupid, huh? Sometimes a law can be challenged directly as being "void for vagueness" on it's face. Otherwise ya gotta go thru the process and then pray YOU'RE NOT THE TEST CASE! Because that poor misbegotten creature will have his entire life on the line and he's got to win or lose it all.

Why not sue the feds for infringing on our Second Amendment rights, which, after all, are not GIVEN by government at all, but are endowed by our Creator?

Look up this term in a legal dictionary: "STANDING" and apply it to a case and you'll see why it's not done. This is the main reason all the suits against Obama failed to force him to reveal his birth documents.

Happy New Year! Enjoy that celebration, because things will start rolling downhill for us all on the 20th of January.

44 posted on 12/25/2008 6:51:07 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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