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Texas report: Abuse widespread in polygamist sect
AP ^ | 12.23.2008 | Michelle Roberts

Posted on 12/23/2008 12:41:30 PM PST by wolfcreek

SAN ANTONIO - Nearly two-thirds of the families living at a polygamist group's ranch - targeted in a high-profile raid last spring - had children who were abused or neglected, Texas child welfare officials said in a report released Tuesday.

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To: dpwiener

“children were malnourished or untreated for illnesses or left unattended by parents”

As for the young girls involved, how about *next in line*.

You think those other kids didn’t know what was happening?


21 posted on 12/23/2008 2:41:36 PM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: WaterBoard

Nothing makes me more upset than *the out of touch Newbie*.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2138247/posts

I believe there are 12 indicted individuals, FYI.


22 posted on 12/23/2008 2:47:32 PM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: dpwiener

The abuse was prepping the next generation for a new crop of child brides in 10 years or so.

God help them, I hope He’s more merciful than I feel toward the daughter swaps perpetrated by the mothers and fathers of “only a dozen” little girls.


23 posted on 12/23/2008 2:51:32 PM PST by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: WaterBoard

research is your friend. Men have been arraigned, charged, and arrested, along with at least one mother for daughter-swapping they call a “wedding.”

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ned=us&q=flds&ie=UTF-8&scoring=n


24 posted on 12/23/2008 2:54:49 PM PST by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: wolfcreek

Retread more than likely.


25 posted on 12/23/2008 2:56:01 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: hocndoc
The abuse was prepping the next generation for a new crop of child brides in 10 years or so.

And I agree that having sex with children constitutes child abuse. Those who engaged in it, and the parents who permitted it, deserve to be punished.

But the agency only alleges 12 instances of actual child abuse. The remaining instances of what it terms "neglect" involves allegations that other children were around and aware of the actual abuse. That's very different than the commonly-used meaning of "child neglect".

Instead of conflating "abuse" and "neglect" into one common issue, when less than 5% of the 280 cases consisted of sexual abuse, the agency could have easily separated out the charges and clarified that the "neglect" portion was not physical but rather "bad parenting". The agency's failure to do so makes its ulterior motive (trying to justify its actions which a court struck down) pretty obvious.

26 posted on 12/23/2008 3:10:47 PM PST by dpwiener
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To: dpwiener
IMO, (and because I live in Texas) the *agency* had just cause for taking every one of those kids out of that environment. They just didn't do it the right way.

If we are going to tear down the government entity who we've entrusted this responsibility, we need to ask ourselves a troubling question. Who will look out for the welfare of those kids if not for them?

27 posted on 12/23/2008 3:24:10 PM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: wolfcreek

I wonder if this will end like the Davidian’s “child abuse” allegations. 80+ burnt to death parishioners and prosecution court case after court case being tossed out as baseless.


28 posted on 12/23/2008 3:36:33 PM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Dead Corpse

Since the initial raid indicted no firearm or explosive stashes, it won’t be necessary for the FEDERAL AGENCY BATF to be involved. (in case you mistakenly thought the State of Texas had anything to do with Waco)


29 posted on 12/23/2008 3:51:06 PM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: metmom
Ah, yes, more of the fruit of Joseph Smith.
30 posted on 12/23/2008 3:57:57 PM PST by Godzilla (Jesus - the REASON for the SEASON.)
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To: dpwiener

“Only 12”? Is that not enough for you?

That’s one in four of the girls in those families. How many babies did the report say these girls have had - 7?

Now, you’ve got 19 kids. When do you reach your threshhold?

The “fathers” all got together every so often and traded their 12 and 13 years around. That’s not really very healthy for their siblings. Add in our knowledge that the entire community practiced deception as to who was parent to whom, last names varied, and “fathers” and brothers occasionally got kicked out, and “families” were reassigned to new “fathers.”


31 posted on 12/23/2008 7:04:11 PM PST by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: wolfcreek
Nearly two-thirds of the families living at a polygamist group's ranch - targeted in a high-profile raid last spring - had children who were abused or neglected, Texas child welfare officials said in a report released Tuesday.

Is that ALL??

Mine were 'abused and neglected' all the time.

(To hear THEM tell it! ;^)

32 posted on 12/24/2008 4:14:55 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: hocndoc
The Big Lie may reign in his little fiefdom, but not out here.

Sounds like SLC's kingdom - we ain't buyin' it either.

33 posted on 12/24/2008 4:16:16 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: weegee
Meanwhile Planned Parenthood doesn't ask where a 13 year old gets money for an abortion and opposes parental notification on the supposed fear “what if it is her FATHER who impregnated her?”.

PP is as protected in society as LDS secret ceremonies are protected on FR.

34 posted on 12/24/2008 4:18:07 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: wolfcreek
If these people want to have a dozen wives, power to them.

If you're a pro ball player - you needn't bother with the pesky marriage license...

35 posted on 12/24/2008 4:19:37 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Godzilla
Ah, yes, more of the fruit of Joseph Smith.
 
You rang???


2 Nephi 3:12

     Wherefore, the fruit of thy loins write; and the fruit of thy loins of Judah shall write; and that which shall be written by the fruit of thy loins, and also that which shall be written by the fruit of thy loins of Judah, shall grow together,

2 Nephi 3:18      And the Lord said unto me also: I will raise up unto the fruit of thy loins; and I will make for him a spokesman. And I, behold, I will give unto him that he shall write the writing of the fruit of thy loins, unto the fruit of thy loins; and the spokesman of thy loins shall declare it.

 

Joseph Smith Translation Gen. 50: 27   Thus saith the Lord God of my fathers unto me, A choice seer will I raise up out of the fruit of thy loins, and he shall be esteemed highly among the fruit of thy loins; and unto him will I give commandment that he shall do a work for the fruit of thy loins, his brethren.

Joseph Smith Translation Gen. 50: 31    Wherefore the fruit of thy loins shall write, and the fruit of thy loins of Judah shall write; and that which shall be written by the fruit of thy loins, and also that which shall be written by the fruit of thy loins of Judah, shall grow together


 

37 posted on 12/24/2008 4:26:36 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Notes on Arthur Conan Doyle's A Study in Scarlet
38 posted on 12/24/2008 4:38:02 AM PST by John McDonnell
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To: John McDonnell
The sketch goes on to tell of Forscutt joining the Reorganized church in 1965.... I should think 1865
39 posted on 12/24/2008 3:50:57 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Thanks to your pointing this out, my “1965” typo has been corrected to “1865”.


40 posted on 12/24/2008 5:27:54 PM PST by John McDonnell
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