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Texas report: Abuse widespread in polygamist sect
AP ^ | 12.23.2008 | Michelle Roberts

Posted on 12/23/2008 12:41:30 PM PST by wolfcreek

SAN ANTONIO - Nearly two-thirds of the families living at a polygamist group's ranch - targeted in a high-profile raid last spring - had children who were abused or neglected, Texas child welfare officials said in a report released Tuesday.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: barneyfrank; chestermolester; cps; flds; inflatednumbers; nifongism; xmormons
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Not so sure there's no longer any abuse. Hope the State continues to monitor thr situation.
1 posted on 12/23/2008 12:41:31 PM PST by wolfcreek
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To: greyfoxx39; colorcountry; SkyPilot; FastCoyote; Tennessee Nana; Elsie; SENTINEL

FLDS Ping!


2 posted on 12/23/2008 12:45:20 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: metmom

FLDS ping


3 posted on 12/23/2008 12:52:12 PM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: wolfcreek

Willie Jessup is still calling on the State to apologize. The Big Lie may reign in his little fiefdom, but not out here.

(Erasing multiple inappropriate puns about Jessup’s name.)(multiple times.)


4 posted on 12/23/2008 12:53:36 PM PST by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: hocndoc

I’m sure we’ll hear from a few others wanting *apologies*.


5 posted on 12/23/2008 12:55:44 PM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: wolfcreek
An additional 262 children were listed as neglected because the agency said their parents knew there was sexual abuse in the household but did not move to protect their children from possible abuse.

Still wondering when Planned Parenthood will be taken to task for not acting on knowledge of sexual abuse.

6 posted on 12/23/2008 12:57:40 PM PST by weegee ("Let Me Just Cut You Off, Because I Don't Want You To Waste Your Question" - B.Obama Dec 16, 2008)
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To: weegee
That's a good comparison but, I wonder how many parents knowingly send/take their kids to PPH to cover abuse?

FLDS has an in-house physician.

7 posted on 12/23/2008 1:04:53 PM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Wait for it...

“Oooooooooooooooooo

The Constitution .....”

:)


8 posted on 12/23/2008 1:09:34 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: wolfcreek
Is the abuse of these girls isn't being cited as molestation with abortion? I thought the evidence cited was the offspring and "marriages".

And a dozen such children are considered evidence that nearly 300 others were “at risk”. Meanwhile Planned Parenthood doesn't ask where a 13 year old gets money for an abortion and opposes parental notification on the supposed fear “what if it is her FATHER who impregnated her?”.

It is criminal in Texas to marry someone under 16. Prosecute that. It will remove the offenders and no longer put the other minors "at risk".

Or should the 275 kids be put into foster homes for the rest of their lives since their families brought them up in situation of "neglect"?

Sec. 2.102. PARENTAL CONSENT FOR UNDERAGE APPLICANT. (a) If an applicant is 16 years of age or older but under 18 years of age, the county clerk shall issue the license if parental consent is given as provided by this section...

A parent or a person who has the court-ordered right to consent to marriage for the applicant commits an offense if the parent or other person knowingly provides parental consent under this section for an applicant who is younger than 16 years of age or who is presently married to a person other than the person the applicant desires to marry. An offense under this subsection is a felony of the third degree.


9 posted on 12/23/2008 1:18:53 PM PST by weegee ("Let Me Just Cut You Off, Because I Don't Want You To Waste Your Question" - B.Obama Dec 16, 2008)
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To: weegee

Forget what I said in post #7.

The two things have very little in common and we went off on an invalid tangent.

The FLDS men who are in custody were charged with molestation and abetting such abuse.


10 posted on 12/23/2008 1:31:35 PM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: wolfcreek
Book of Mormon = Book of Mormon

Polygamy = Polygamy

Joseph Smith = Joseph Smith

FLDS = LDS

“So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.” Jesus Christ (Matthew 7:17-20)

Apostle Orson Hyde: “I discover that some of the Eastern papers represent me as a great blasphemer, because I said, in my lecture on Marriage, at our last Conference, that JESUS CHRIST WAS MARRIED at Cana of Galilee, THAT MARY, MARTHA, AND OTHERS WERE HIS WIVES, AND THAT HE BEGAT CHILDREN. (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 2, page 210)

Brigham Young, answering critics who claimed polygamy as a relic of barbarism: “ Yes, one of the relics of Adam, of Enoch, of Noah, of Abraham, of Isaac, of Jacob, of Moses, David, Solomon, the Prophets, OF JESUS, AND HIS APOSTLES.” (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 11, page 328)

Brigham Young: “The Scripture says that He, the LORD, came walking in the Temple, with HIS TRAIN; I do not now who they were, unless HIS WIVES AND CHILDREN;...” (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 13, page 309)

11 posted on 12/23/2008 1:34:22 PM PST by SENTINEL (My Christ outranks your "prophet".)
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To: wolfcreek

“Neglect” is CPS codeword for “ordinary parenting.”


12 posted on 12/23/2008 1:51:11 PM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Alice in Wonderland; aMorePerfectUnion; Birmingham Rain; bonfire; brytlea; Clara Lou; ...

ping


13 posted on 12/23/2008 1:56:47 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: SENTINEL
Personally, I'm more concerned about the marriages to and sex with, under aged girls. If these people want to have a dozen wives, power to them.

Oh, I don't want them in my State, regardless.

14 posted on 12/23/2008 1:57:02 PM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: wolfcreek
Nearly two-thirds of the families living at a polygamist group's ranch - targeted in a high-profile raid last spring - had children who were abused or neglected, Texas child welfare officials said in a report released Tuesday.

Who would have thought??

IBTFLDSD.

15 posted on 12/23/2008 1:58:05 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Fido969

What would you suggest....pitch forks and a mob mentality to take care of this issue? Or just let them do what they want?


16 posted on 12/23/2008 2:00:02 PM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: metmom

Should we ping *the others*?


17 posted on 12/23/2008 2:01:23 PM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: wolfcreek
A typical CYA bureaucratic report intended to justify the agency's action. Note how they conflate “abuse” and “neglect”. You have to read the details of the article to learn that there were only a dozen cases of “abuse” while the other 262 cases were “neglect” — with “neglect” being defined by the agency as families exposing their children to those few situations of actual abuse.

The normal assumption by an average reader, based just on the headline and first paragraph, would be that a huge amount of abuse took place, and that other children were malnourished or untreated for illnesses or left unattended by parents (the typical meaning of neglect). The agency is deliberately creating a misimpression, and the news media is playing along.

18 posted on 12/23/2008 2:22:55 PM PST by dpwiener
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To: wolfcreek

Texas child welfare officials ?

Now there’s a group with no interest in the outcome of the report, and clearly no bias.

/sarcasm


19 posted on 12/23/2008 2:24:55 PM PST by jimt
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This a CYA (cover your ass) report by Texas. Since not a single parent has been arrested since the initial raid and the children ordered to be returned to their parents by the courts, it appears to be little more than just window dressing.


20 posted on 12/23/2008 2:28:53 PM PST by WaterBoard (Somewhere a Village is Missing it's Socialist.)
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