To: raisetheroof
"Dr. Holdren, now a physicist at Harvard, was one of the experts in natural resources whom Paul Ehrlich enlisted in his famous bet against the economist Julian Simon during the energy crisis of the 1980s. Dr. Simon, who disagreed with environmentalists predictions of a new age of scarcity of natural resources, offered to bet that any natural resource would be cheaper at any date in the future..." However it was Holdren, not Simon, who had it right; the only part of the prediction of increasing world consumption and rising prices that was incorrect was the time frame.
And even then, not by much, here's copper, for example:
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7d/Copper_Price_History_USD.png)
To: M. Dodge Thomas
Nice cherry-picked chart.
Jan high-grade copper is $1.3360/lb as I write this.
The differential isn't supply or demand; it's government. Julian Simon was spot on.
8 posted on
12/22/2008 10:09:08 AM PST by
SAJ
To: M. Dodge Thomas
11 posted on
12/22/2008 10:14:19 AM PST by
Hans
To: M. Dodge Thomas
Nicely done piece of misinformation. I especially like the way that you cherry-picked the timeframe. Surely there's price data available since May. Why did you choose not to include it? Might it have undermined your bogus point?
Incidentally, the original bet was for a ten year period using inflation-adjusted dollars and Simon won the bet, quite handily.
19 posted on
12/22/2008 11:01:52 AM PST by
Bob
To: M. Dodge Thomas
20 posted on
12/22/2008 11:06:07 AM PST by
zek157
To: M. Dodge Thomas
Your chart is woefully out of date:
![](http://www.kitconet.com/charts/metals/base/spot-copper-5y-Large.gif)
26 posted on
12/22/2008 1:11:41 PM PST by
Atlas Sneezed
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