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Supreme Court to talk about Obama 3rd time Berg eligibility case set for conference Jan. 9
WND ^ | December 19, 2008

Posted on 12/19/2008 12:23:50 PM PST by Red Steel

One of the original legal challenges to President-elect Barack Obama's eligibility for office to reach the U.S. Supreme Court now has been scheduled for a conference, a meeting at which the justices discuss its merits and whether to step into the fray.

Online schedules posted by the court show the case brought by attorney Philip J. Berg is set for a conference Jan. 9.

The case is one among several that already have reached the U.S. Supreme Court and address the issue of Obama's eligibility to occupy the Oval Office under the U.S. Constitution's requirement that presidents be "natural born" citizens.

Berg has submitted several requests for injunctions, seeking the court's order to stay proceedings in the electoral process until his case is heard, but the request have been rejected.

His original claim, however, remains on track to be heard.

"I know that Mr. Obama is not a constitutionally qualified natural born citizen and is ineligible to assume the office of president of the United States," Berg said in a statement on his ObamaCrimes.com website.

"Obama knows he is not 'natural born' as he knows where he was born and he knows he was adopted in Indonesia; Obama is an attorney, Harvard Law grad who taught Constitutional law; Obama knows his candidacy is the largest 'hoax' attempted on the citizens of the United States in over 200 years; Obama places our Constitution in a 'crisis' situation; and Obama is in a situation where he can be blackmailed by leaders around the world who know Obama is not qualified," Berg's statement continued.

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The cases, in various ways, have alleged Obama does not meet the "natural born citizen" clause of the U.S. Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, which reads, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the

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To: Albion Wilde

Yeah, that’s a pretty ugly and hateful rant against Bush and Cheney coming from Berg. Who the hell does he think he is, a CoastToCoastAM host?.


41 posted on 12/19/2008 1:21:47 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Red Steel

The Democrat dominated congress will refuse to impeach him, and they will be resoundly defeated in 2010. Maybe, this Birth Certificate thing has more to do with Rick Warren, putting off Don’t ask Don’t Tell, and other moderate to middle choices Obama is making. He is terrified of having a large percentage of Americans calling for his head with this issue unresolved.


42 posted on 12/19/2008 1:22:28 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: trumandogz
If Mother Obama did not go to the U.S. Embassy to apply for a birth certificate, how is it that she got Baby Obama into the U.S. without documentation. I for example, was born overseas and my mama had to have documentation to get me into the U.S.

Good question. If you have been following these threads from the beginning you would know babies did not need passports in the early 60's since they traveled on their mother's passport. However, filing an FOIA with the State Department is a good idea...cover all the bases.

I needed that BC from the U.S. Embassy to enroll in school, play Little League, set my S.S. Card, get my U.S. Passport, my DL enroll in College etc.

How do you propose Obama did all the above things without a B.C?

And you would know, if you followed these Obama citizen status threads, that Hawaii issued COLBs and birth certificates to foreign born babies up to 1972.

Oh, and you do not need a birth certificate to get a passport. The State Department accepts "Secondary evidence of U.S. Citizenship" that makes it a lot easier to game the system.

So "proving your age" to play little league baseball would have been easy for Obama because the State of Hawaii once had flimsy rules in place.

43 posted on 12/19/2008 1:23:12 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Albion Wilde

So it is better to “kill” the messenger than the message???


44 posted on 12/19/2008 1:28:49 PM PST by danamco
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To: Genoa
Congress could certify the EC vote, but a disqualification could still occur afterward, couldn’t it?

I think it is called that they then have elected an "usurper" as President???

45 posted on 12/19/2008 1:32:33 PM PST by danamco
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To: MathDoc

Redacted sounds fine until you look at your own BC and wonder “What is in here that is so private the American People cannot see this”?

Most people use their drivers license and Social Security card as ID. They have never actually looked at their BC.

Still others have a passport and have had to present their Birth Certificate to the

Primary Evidence of U.S. Citizenship (One of the following):

Previously issued, undamaged U.S. Passport

Certified birth certificate issued by the city, county or state*

Consular Report of Birth Abroad or Certification of Birth

Naturalization Certificate

Certificate of Citizenship

http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/first/first_830.html

*A certified birth certificate has a registrar’s raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar’s signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar’s office, which must be within 1 year of your birth. Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes.

http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/Secondary%20Evidence/Secondary%20Evidence_4315.html

If you cannot present primary evidence of U.S. citizenship, you must submit secondary evidence of U.S. citizenship. Determine what form of secondary evidence is most appropriate for your situation based on the descriptions below. Each application is handled on a case-by-case basis. The scenarios below are intended as general guidance.

Early Public Records

If you were born in the United States and cannot present primary evidence of U.S. citizenship, you may submit a combination of early public records as evidence of your U.S. citizenship. Early public records must be submitted together with a birth record or Letter of No Record (see below). Early public records should show your name, date of birth, place of birth, and preferably be created within the first five years of your life. Examples of early public records are:

Baptismal certificate
Hospital birth certificate
Census record
Early school record
Family bible record
Doctor’s record of post-natal care

Early Public Records are not acceptable when presented alone.

BTW, can any freepers give me pointers on how to edit this in HTML?


46 posted on 12/19/2008 2:04:48 PM PST by Vendome
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To: trumandogz

See post 46


47 posted on 12/19/2008 2:07:08 PM PST by Vendome
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To: Red Steel

Here is my take for what it is worth. (not much)
If Zero isn’t a “Natural Born U.S. Citizen” then the time for bringing that to light has passed. Maybe if we had gone after it a year ago we might have gotten to the truth. Now the “moment” has been lost. Consider the following.

If Zero IS REALLY a “Natural Born U.S. Citizen” then all the delay tactics are just to set us up to look stupid.

If Zero IS NOT a “Natural Born U.S. Citizen” then the delay tactics have provided enough time for suitable “Proof” of him being a “Natural Born U.S. Citizen” to be manufactured and appropriately inserted into the record.

Does anybody here in their heart of hearts really believe that Zero, with all the money at his disposal, and all the Dems nationwide willing to break laws, blatantly, to help him, couldn’t get that done in the time allowed?

End result, we look stupid.

Personally, I believe in the second scenario....But that’s just my take.


48 posted on 12/19/2008 2:07:26 PM PST by Blackhawk (God said it, I believe it, That settles it.)
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To: Red Steel

One of these Obama non-citizenship cases is going to pop! In baseball, a superstar batting .333 actually fails 2/3 of the time. An NBA player is good if he shoots over 50% (which means he missed half the time). The bottomline is, each of these cases digs just alittle bigger hole.

http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244


49 posted on 12/19/2008 2:10:19 PM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: Blackhawk
Personally, I believe in the second scenario....But that’s just my take.

Somebody the other day quoted an old political aphorism: "Never interrupt your opponent when he's making a mistake."

Anyone who wonders what Obama gains by not releasing his birth certificate only has to read these threads to see the schism this is creating in conservative ranks. Why would he stop that?

50 posted on 12/19/2008 2:12:27 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Blackhawk

Where have you been, some of us have been researching this issue for more than a year and wondering why no one will touch it.


51 posted on 12/19/2008 2:22:32 PM PST by usmcobra
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To: Red Steel

Please SCOTUS resolve this issue, all I ask is that the truth be brought out in court.


52 posted on 12/19/2008 2:30:36 PM PST by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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To: Red Steel
"Obama knows he is not 'natural born' ..."

Why else would he hide his BC? None of the excuses proffered by his apologists about "something embarrassing" holds any water.

53 posted on 12/19/2008 2:34:18 PM PST by TigersEye (I threw my shoe at Mohammed and hit Allah in the butt.)
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To: TigersEye
Why else would he hide his BC?

Because this issue isn't harming him with the general public and it's causing a schism among conservatives. Why would he stop that?

54 posted on 12/19/2008 2:40:13 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Red Steel

The Supremes have chosen to be derelict in their duty to the Constitution, and let the mob rule, even though Oboogie is an alien. It’s a social message. So goes the Republic.


55 posted on 12/19/2008 2:43:35 PM PST by pallis
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Thank you! That is a perfect example of the kind of specious reasoning used to defend his actions. ;-)


56 posted on 12/19/2008 2:48:29 PM PST by TigersEye (I threw my shoe at Mohammed and hit Allah in the butt.)
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To: Red Steel

The legal score card thus far:
Philip J. Berg, a Pennsylvania Democrat, demanded that the courts verify Obama’s original birth certificate and other documents proving his American citizenship. US District Judge R. Barclay Surrick dismissed Berg’s complaint for lack of standing. Surrick added in his dismissal that Berg’s case was “frivolous and not worthy of discussion.”
Berg appealed to the US Supreme Court requesting an injunction to stop the Electoral College from selecting the 44th president. Berg’s was denied by Justice Souter of the U.S. Supreme Court.

Berg resubmitted his Petition for a Writ of Certiorari and it was taken on by U.S. Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy. On December 17th it was denied without comment by Kennedy. Berg’s Petition will be heard in conference for a third time on January 9th.

Leo Donofrio of New Jersey filed a lawsuit claiming Obama’s dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. His case was considered in conference by the U.S. Supreme Court but denied a full hearing.

Cort Wrotnowski filed suit against Connecticut’s secretary of state, making a similar argument to Donofrio. His case was considered in conference by the U.S. Supreme Court, but was denied a full hearing.

Former presidential candidate Alan Keyes headlines a list of people filing a suit in California, in a case handled by the United States Justice Foundation, that asks the secretary of state to refuse to allow the state’s 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office. The case is pending, and lawyers are seeking the public’s support. However the 55 California Electors did vote on December 15th thus rendering the Keyes case moot as of the Certification of the Electoral College vote on January 6th.

Chicago attorney Andy Martin sought legal action requiring Hawaii Gov. Linda Lingle to release Obama’s vital statistics record. The case was dismissed by Hawaii Circuit Court Judge Bert Ayabe.
Martin also appealed to the Hawaii Supreme Court for a Writ of Mandamus to force release of Obama’s original birth certificate. The writ was denied by the Hawaii Supreme Court on October 22nd under the state’s vital records confidentiality provisions.

Lt. Col. Donald Sullivan sought a temporary restraining order to stop the Electoral College vote in North Carolina until Barack Obama’s eligibility could be confirmed, alleging doubt about Obama’s citizenship. His case was denied.

In Ohio, David M. Neal sued to force the secretary of state to request documents from the Federal Elections Commission, the Democratic National Committee, the Ohio Democratic Party and Obama to show the presidential candidate was born in Hawaii. The case was denied.

In Washington state, Steven Marquis sued the secretary of state seeking a determination on Obama’s citizenship. The case was denied.

In Georgia, Rev. Tom Terry asked the state Supreme Court to authenticate Obama’s birth certificate. His request for an injuction against Georgia’s secretary of state was denied by Georgia Superior Court Judge Jerry W. Baxter.


57 posted on 12/19/2008 2:53:42 PM PST by jamese777
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To: usmcobra
Where have you been

Perhaps I wasn't clear. I know people were looking into it a year ago. What I ment was that it needed to reach the SC a year ago.

58 posted on 12/19/2008 2:56:06 PM PST by Blackhawk (God said it, I believe it, That settles it.)
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To: TigersEye

Like the man said, “Never interrupt your opponent when he’s making a mistake.” I find it a lot more plausible to believe that Obama and company aren’t releasing the birth certificate because they’re laughing their asses off about this and the split its causing in conservative ranks than to believe that there’s some conspiracy going back to 1961 and involving everyone from Malcolm X to Antonin Scalia, but for which not a single tangible bit of proof has turned up.


59 posted on 12/19/2008 3:02:48 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Well, don’t let me interrupt you.


60 posted on 12/19/2008 3:06:41 PM PST by TigersEye (I threw my shoe at Mohammed and hit Allah in the butt.)
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