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1 posted on 12/18/2008 10:08:27 AM PST by dascallie
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Is the National Enquirer working on this? (I’m not kidding.)


2 posted on 12/18/2008 10:09:28 AM PST by utahagen
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Maybe this guy IS the Anti-Christ. Its like he has no record of a valid past. Like he just developed out of nowhere.


3 posted on 12/18/2008 10:10:45 AM PST by Sig Sauer P220 (The Big 3 Auto Makers - Where Attention to Kwality is Jobe Won.)
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To: pissant; STARWISE

more drama about Obama...PING!!


4 posted on 12/18/2008 10:12:06 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.)
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In those days, even in Hawaii, a black and white mixed couple would have been memorable to neighbors, I should think.


5 posted on 12/18/2008 10:12:32 AM PST by Genoa
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If this story had legs wouldn’t someone other than Joe Farah
be pushing it?

This is borderline tinfoil hat stuff. O has far more glaring flaws such as inability to give anything close to a straight answer.


8 posted on 12/18/2008 10:13:28 AM PST by rahbert
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“Honolulu “address” of Obama family does NOT check out.

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I’m adding another set of quotation marks:

Honolulu “address” of Obama “family” does NOT check out.

The Zero’s mommy appears to have been not much more than another mark on the bed post for Daddy. Ahem....typical...


14 posted on 12/18/2008 10:15:44 AM PST by EyeGuy
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21 posted on 12/18/2008 10:23:54 AM PST by IrishPennant (Patriotism is strongest when accompanied by bad politics, loyal FRiends and great whiskey)
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Baro was able to determine the previous owners of the residence at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway – the alleged address of Obama's parents when he was born – were Orland S. and Thelma S. (Young) Lefforge, both of whom are deceased.

Hmmmmmm...

32 posted on 12/18/2008 10:34:22 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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I can’t really say that this news is a shock.


34 posted on 12/18/2008 10:35:35 AM PST by ronnyquest ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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ping


39 posted on 12/18/2008 10:38:23 AM PST by stockpirate (I'll bet the economy gets better on Jan. 21, 2009)
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So basically this is an affidavit from a guy in Florida telling us what some investigators in Hawaii told him some old lady in Hawaii told them about not remembering some neighbors who are supposed to have lived there 47 years ago. Oh, my God! It’s the smoking gun!


45 posted on 12/18/2008 10:46:33 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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No harm in Digging this article, and unburying some of the buried comments.


57 posted on 12/18/2008 10:57:29 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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When will this CRAP end?

Can’t all the troofers just set up one thread where they can trade the latest nonsense?


73 posted on 12/18/2008 11:16:18 AM PST by Scarchin (Withholding judgement)
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“Welcome to the United States.”


88 posted on 12/18/2008 11:54:10 AM PST by onedoug
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Very good post... ignore the naysayers...I believe nothing until 0 shows his birth certificate and he proves he was born in a Hawaiian hospital on this birth date

This all doesn’t pan out


91 posted on 12/18/2008 12:01:11 PM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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When the newspaper clipping was first shown on FR, I looked into public records for the address shown in the birth announcement. At that time, I posted that this was not a home they had ever lived in or owned. Looks like a little research into the public records works....


92 posted on 12/18/2008 12:03:57 PM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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Du-uh. Of course not.

Obama's father probably had his own place on campus. Obama's mother probably had hers, or lived with her parents.

Maybe they never actually lived together. Assuming they ever did, it was probably a transient thing, at one apartment complex or another.

Is this really going anywhere? Maybe -- probably -- there's some family secret underneath all this, but not something that would disqualify Obama for the presidency.

I can understand the frustration with Obama for not revealing just who he is -- health and school records, etc. -- but there's a backlash building against these investigations, as people come to think the theorists aren't really being up front about what they're looking for either.

107 posted on 12/18/2008 12:32:11 PM PST by x
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obumpa


119 posted on 12/18/2008 1:41:25 PM PST by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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This investigator's "affidavit" is a piece of crap.

An affidavit is a statement made under oath and attested to by a notary public, who is an officer of the court authorized to administer an oath and to attest that a statement was made under oath. The document that is linked in the article is a draft of an affidavit, but it is not notarized.

The investigator apparently never traced the chain of title of the place where the Obamas were supposed to have lived, according to the birth announcement. He simply says the property was owned by some people who are now dead. When did they buy it? When did they sell it? To whom did they sell it? This information is all a matter of public record, but apparently he didn't bother to look it up?

Nor did he apparently look up the chain of title of the house next door, whose owner says she lived there since before 1961. Trust, but verify.

The statement also wanders off into all sorts of conjecture and speculation by the investigator based (admittedly) on no facts. A cross-examination of this inveastigator on the contents of this statement would not be very pretty.

127 posted on 12/21/2008 2:10:55 PM PST by blau993 (Fight Gerbil Swarming)
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The tax assessor’s office would have a record of who owned that address during the applicable time period. It would likely take a manual search because of the date, but it could be done. That would lead to a deed, to a name, to a person who could be directly asked about it.

An investigator, lawyer, court reporter, title abstractor, anyone familiar with public records could do this on site in an afternoon.

The other leg work that needs to be done is to check public records in Massachusetts, California, and Chicago for any records relating to a name change from Soetoro to Obama - again - because it likely happened, if it happened, in the 80’s when things were still manually indexed. In most states, a name change will show as a recorded judgment the same place deeds are recorded. Also, in some states, a publication of the notice of change of name is required.


140 posted on 01/07/2009 8:02:33 PM PST by esquirette (If we do not know our own worldview, we will accept theirs.)
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