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Ohio Cops Rounded Up Eight Children at Gunpoint and Stole Their Food, Suit Alleges
The Complete Patient ^ | Dec. 18, 2008 | David E. Gumpert

Posted on 12/18/2008 6:03:46 AM PST by davidgumpert

As I began reading through the court suit that Jacqueline and John Stowers have filed against various Ohio officials, I kept wondering about the retail licensing provision that supposedly prompted the entire affair. How was it that the Manna Storehouse was exempt, or possibly violated it?

But as I continued reading, and learning that the level of violence and abuse was probably even worse than what I and other bloggers previously described, I found myself considering another question: What was the real message the Lorain County and Ohio Department of Agriculture officials were trying to deliver, to the Stowers, and to the community at large?

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; lorain; mannastorehouse; stowers
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The operators of an Ohio food co-op have filed suit against Ohio agriculture and health officials based on a Dec. 1 police raid that was more violent than originally reported. What was the real message of the raid?
1 posted on 12/18/2008 6:03:47 AM PST by davidgumpert
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To: davidgumpert
BULL WASTE
2 posted on 12/18/2008 6:08:01 AM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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What was the real message of the raid?

Oooohhh, oohhh, Mr. Kotter, Mr. Kotter!

3 posted on 12/18/2008 6:10:39 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Hey Obama, why lawyer up when you can pony up? Show us your vault copy BC)
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To: davidgumpert

Did those cops take the kids donuts?


4 posted on 12/18/2008 6:12:12 AM PST by shove_it (and have a nice day)
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sounds like Armed Robbery, Assault with a Deadly Weapon, and Kidnapping, after all didn’t we just learn this from watching the OJ trial? All persons involved should be indicted on these charges and spend the rest of their lives in prison.

eyeamok


5 posted on 12/18/2008 6:14:09 AM PST by eyeamok
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So there wasn't one person in that group questioning their tactics of using guns and bully tactics to take care of a food issue?

Wouldn't a polite knock on the door and asking a few polite questions received better results?

This is scary stuff....predictor of days to come, I'm afraid.

6 posted on 12/18/2008 6:16:26 AM PST by Kimmers
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To: davidgumpert

Raw milk must be really, really bad because it sparks some very over-the-top behavior. Oh wait, the bad boys and girls don’t drink it - maybe they should to assist with their anger management issues.


7 posted on 12/18/2008 6:17:10 AM PST by NonValueAdded (once you get to really know people, there are always better reasons than [race] for despising them.)
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To: Kimmers

Sounds to me like these people dared to provide for the needy without the blessing of Caesar.


8 posted on 12/18/2008 6:18:22 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: davidgumpert
The ODA was involved in a violent raid and personal assault on raw milk producer Gary Oaks two years ago in Cincinnati as he distributed milk to herdshare members, and got away without any court action, or exposure beyond what I wrote about it.
Gee, sounds like a raw deal.
9 posted on 12/18/2008 6:22:48 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: davidgumpert

Time to water Mr jeffersons tree again


10 posted on 12/18/2008 6:23:17 AM PST by Charlespg
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To: davidgumpert

Growing your own food is very inefficient.

However.....

Having half, or as I contend, three quarters of working income taken by one means or another by the state is also very inefficient. Especially for the person being taken from.

So....it might well be, that returning to someting like these peoples life style is less worse than working.

I.E., you can live better with the help of a 100 like minded people, ‘off the grid’, or better yet, ‘off the GRIND’, then within the system.

So, old Yankee meets hippie meets religion meets uber conservative.

So, where does the state figure into this? It doesn’t, except the threat of it’s ever dimisining tax sheeple walking away from the tax plantation where taxes are harvested on the backs of working people.

If say 15% of regular productive people move to a uber low tax subsistence lifestyle, who is going to make up the taxes?

The state, looking from its point of view, must do everything it can to suppress these people from escaping


11 posted on 12/18/2008 6:25:22 AM PST by Leisler ("Give us the child for 8 years and it will be a Democrat forever. " Lenin)
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Your post also goes to the point of what would happen if conservatives peacefully tried to secede from the control of the leftists -

they would VIOLENTLY attempt to get us back under their control and enslavement.


12 posted on 12/18/2008 6:29:42 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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And there is really much more to this story. Google the name of the co-op. I had never heard of it, but I guess this goes on all the time.


13 posted on 12/18/2008 6:39:25 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Kimmers

“Wouldn’t a polite knock on the door and asking a few polite questions received better results?”

Same situation as a doctor in Washington state who was giving his patients intravenous Vitamin C.

The FDA raided his office one day in the middle of the day. They came in with guns bared (rifles, not just handguns), they tossed the patients out, they rounded up the employees and basically held them captive to make sure they wouldn’t destroy any evidence.

They let the employees go several hours later and took the doc to jail. They took his computers and most of his records with them and didn’t return them for months, even after he was found innocent of any wrong doing.

We’re from the gov’t and we are here to help you.


14 posted on 12/18/2008 6:40:13 AM PST by webstersII
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If say 15% of regular productive people move to a uber low tax subsistence lifestyle, who is going to make up the taxes?

And therein lies the source of the States 'issue' with these people. Can't have the hoi polloi not paying their 'fair share' after all.

L

15 posted on 12/18/2008 6:49:02 AM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: davidgumpert

What did they do wrong? From the article it was just a group of people sharing food and not selling? That’s illegal?


16 posted on 12/18/2008 6:54:25 AM PST by CindyDawg (Lord, please bless America)
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What was the real message of the raid?

"No hoarding!"

17 posted on 12/18/2008 6:57:39 AM PST by nina0113 (Hugh Akston is my hero.)
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To: NonValueAdded

Raw milk is deadly here in the U.S. but not in Spain, France, Portugal and Italy. Maybe it has more to do with profits by the food industry and a desire not to share that with the farmer.


18 posted on 12/18/2008 7:00:17 AM PST by Radl (rtr)
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Farmers can’t milk their own cows?


19 posted on 12/18/2008 7:01:57 AM PST by CindyDawg (Lord, please bless America)
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“Farmers can’t milk their own cows?”

Yes they can, Ohio just doesn’t allow the sale of raw milk. Except for the Amish guy Ohio’s Ag Department roughed up and imprisoned. He was released and found not guilty based on religious reasons. Evidently as Amish if somebody ask something of you, you have to provide it if it is within your means.


20 posted on 12/18/2008 7:08:33 AM PST by neb52 (Go Frogs!)
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