Posted on 12/17/2008 10:09:05 PM PST by KellyM37
Society has devolved from the rugged individualist to the whining hand wringing supplicant of the nanny state. That is not an accident. <<<
No, not an accident, it was all set out in the “Communist Manifesto 1963”, as presented to Congress.
That's a bizarre thing to say seeing how I never even mentioned WHAT I was reading. You don't know what I've read or how I came to my conclusions; have the courtesy to not judge what you simply do not know.
I'm not judging you, but you never said either what you do at a school. For all I know you could be the computer tech at an elementary school. If you're optimistic then clearly you've not really been paying attention. Not to the economy or to the general state of government. We are closer to the reality of global government than at any other point in history, including the introduction of Wilson's 14 point plan and the League of Nations concept floated immediately after WWI. Now we're about to install not only the most liberal President in all of American history but we're also about to embrace a Congress where two branches of government are firmly under the control of the left. Tell me about checks and balances when one party controls two branches, and rests just one seat from control of the USSC. That was one of my essay exam questions on the final I just gave two days ago to my Honors American Government Students.
So tell me, what books you've been reading? Have you read any of the books on the list at my FR home page? The Creature From Jekyll Island: An In Depth Analysis of the Federal Reserve. Have you read that? How about Confessions of an Economic Hitman? Shadows of Power by James Perloff? None Dare Call it Treason? by Gary Allen?
The issues can seem to be fairly benign IF you don't do an analysis that includes a totality of the nexus between the devolving morals of our society as well as the progression of international economic sabotage by the Fed and the international banking cartels and then tie that to our history. Simply put: Taking each issue (or administration) as being isolated and without connection; then things don't seem bad at all. But connecting the dots while using history as a guide and it's easy to see that Rome has begun to burn as Nero tunes up the fiddle. So tell me what books you've read, what you do at the school and how long you've been doing the research.
That's such a blinkered view--"Things are bad NOW, thus, things will ALWAYS be bad from now on!"--that it's not worth discussing.
Your belief is that your view is THE view. You're not interested in a discussion, because you've already got the answers. You've already said I'm completely wrong. Why should I waste my time engaging in a discussion with someone who already knows what I've read, who I am, my credentials, my life history...without ever even asking?
NOW you ask, but I can see where this discussion is going to go. It's pointless, because you already know it all.
Simply put: Taking each issue (or administration) as being isolated and without connection; then things don't seem bad at all.
Again--even before you have the answers to the questions you've posed, you make an assumption about how I came to the conclusions I've reached. That's really stupid behavior.
BTW, although I have done everything from janitorial work to electronic publishing (it's always interesting to see how those who supposedly approve of working Americans and who, I'm guessing now, sniff at the liberal academic culture, always start off by putting down an opponent as one of those "computer techs at an elementary school" or some other "lower class" type), I'm neither a computer tech nor a teacher. (Nor a janitor.)
P.S. Just to let you know where I'm coming from, no, I don't read the nutty fantasizing by John Birchers. Keep taking your Laetril.
Struck a nerve, huh? I never called you stupid. You're the one who went on a personal attack.
That's such a blinkered view--"Things are bad NOW, thus, things will ALWAYS be bad from now on!"--that it's not worth discussing.
What is the origin of that term: Blinkered? Never heard that one before but it sounds vaguely British. Something the folks in the British army might utter. I trained with those guys on and off during my time on active duty.
"Things are bad NOW, thus, things will ALWAYS be bad from now on!"
Actually, it's been a progression if you've been paying attention to history. Things were pretty good in this country once upon a time, but they have been steadily progressing in a downward spiral that is unlikely to end any time soon. In fact in the last 16 years the agenda has expanded and accelerated. That trend will likely continue, IMHO. Sure we may get minor corrections upward like the current dip in fuel prices. But it's also science: Entropy, it's called (I'm not a science teacher, I'm a social studies guy, but my father in law has a Phd in nuclear physics) and basically it means that things always end. That the universe is constantly progressing from bad to worse.
I have done everything from janitorial work to electronic publishing
Nothing wrong with either of those. Honest labor for an honest wage. But I wouldn't think any of them could step into my classroom and take over my Advanced Placement American Government class for any amount of time and expect any kind of valid pedagogy from them. Conversely, I don't think I'd be any good at their job. But I do what I do very well. I'm actually at the top of my game, so to speak. It's probably not very common that an ultra liberal staff of over 150 educators will vote an ultra conservative peer (whose personal views they utterly abhor) as a social studies Teacher of the Year for that school.
Folks who know they're at a topical disadvantage will always start a rebuttal they intend to quit; with the phrase: ...it's not worth discussing. LOL.
You've already said I'm completely wrong. I did no such thing. I merely made some observations regarding your conclusions and I did that based solely on some inane statements you made about being optimistic as to the future of the country. I really don't know what conclusions you've reached because you have refused to share them. That's fine with me. But don't fall back on some lame disavowal that I've made up my mind. Well, sure, I have. But it's no reason not to put your views out there, unless you're shaky on their premise. Also remember that my conclusions have already been reached and published long before I ever held them. Actually for two thousand years give or take. So yes, I'm unshakable as to my conclusions as a matter of faith. But that has nothing to do with you.
Another personal attack. You must really be nervous!
And I never called you stupid, either. I said your specific behavior in ONE instance was stupid. I guess you are claiming you've never engaged in stupid behavior at all? Wow, you're cool.
Folks who know they're at a topical disadvantage will always start a rebuttal they intend to quit; with the phrase: ...it's not worth discussing. LOL.
Folks who have no facts not published by lunatic fringers will always start one of their insipi rants with the phrase "Struck a nerve, huh?"
Hope you get plenty of tinfoil for Christmas. :D
Are you kidding? I have already cornered the market in tinfoil! My super uber hat has a little beanie on top that spins madly at the mention of the Council on Foreign Relations or the Bilderberg group. It also has little ear flaps that roll down to screen out the alien mind probes! I may patent the design.
Folks who have no background in a field will quote a couple of titles from wackjobs in order to "prove" they have "Special Secret Knowledge."
Confessions of an Economic Hitman
Conspiracy nut stuff; FReepers are invited to check this guy out, especially if they like science fiction.
"Other sources, including articles in the New York Times and Boston Magazine, as well as a press release issued by the United States Department of State, have referred to a lack of documentary or testimonial evidence to corroborate the claim that the NSA was involved in his hiring to Chas T. Main. In addition, the author of the State Department release states that the NSA "is a cryptological (codemaking and codebreaking) organization, not an economic organization" and that its missions do not involve "anything remotely resembling placing economists at private companies in order to increase the debt of foreign countries."[7]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hit_Man
THIS is your super secret ultimo-tastic "research"? LOL!
Shadows of Power
More John Bircher garbage from someone who apparently is misinformed about the organization he's investigating, as opposed to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carroll_Quigley
None Dare Call it Treason
I don't deny there are plenty of commie symps around, but this book claims that the CP controls America.
And I actually thought you were a serious person. You're a survivalist, too, ain't ya? Come on, you're posting from a Secret Location because the Grand Overlord of the Commie World Takeover and Storm Door Corp. has you on his personal hit list, right?
Thanks for the laughs.
I sure hope not, I am no Anglophile!
It's all in fun, even though I think you're a nut. (I'm kidding!) Merry CHRISTmas.
Well..... Yeah. All my friends were the subject of derision in their neighborhoods right before Hurricane Andrew. Right after the storm, the world shut up and suddenly we're the only ones adequately prepared. We became the go to folks for those who needed advice on getting things back into a state of order. The board of directors for my gun club (I sat on the board as chief safety officer & an NRA Instructor) went deep into the disaster zone and gave free lessons on gun safety to help curb accidental shootings after the marauding hordes of looters swept thru whole neighborhoods and triggered a sunset to sunrise curfew in that area of south Miami-Dade.
Merry CHRISTmas to you as well. Peace be upon you.
The brother of a friend of mine was one of the top FBI coordinators during the relief period in New Orleans, and it's amazing how his version of the government response differs from the one we saw on TV.
I bring this up because when I think of Andrew and the recent massive flooding in Texas (I heard a radio interview with someone from the area), I DON'T think of the whining and complaining from New Orleans. The Texas storm got nothing like the coverage NO got, but the devastation was terrible. The locals, however, just weren't as sympathetic, I guess. (The location where the interviewee was gave lots of aid to NO; not only did NO not reciprocate, but Nagin hotfooted it to DC to make sure he got the lion's share of $$$ this time around.
I don't think prepping for storms when living in storm country is the same as survivalism, though.
I would do the same thing if I lived in Western North Carolina, or the pacific northwest or even if I lived in Hollyweird California. Every area has it's dangers, from forest fires to winter storms to earthquakes to civil unrest (LA Riots). Survivalism isn't nutty -- it's simply being prepared for any possibility. Folks who think survivalist in a negative way have a deliberately skewed (by the media!) view of being prepared for dark times. The media loves to paint folks who are ready for the unexpected as being nuts because they want to dissuade other folks from following the example set by the Boy Scouts of being prepared. Folks who are prepared don't need the government to swoop in as nanny state storm troopers to rescue the downtrodden and oh yeah instill some martial law that never goes away.
Our esteemed congressgal Maxine Waters has declared that we don’t have riots in LA, we have rebellions (against the man).
PS: I’m waiting for the next rebellion to pick up a new flat screen.
As is Jim Robinson and a local conservative talk-show host named Jim Bice. There are still some Dems that hate what is happening to their Party and the Republic.
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