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To: ExSoldier
I'm not judging you, but you never said either what you do at a school. For all I know you could be the computer tech at an elementary school. If you're optimistic then clearly you've not really been paying attention. Not to the economy or to the general state of government.

That's such a blinkered view--"Things are bad NOW, thus, things will ALWAYS be bad from now on!"--that it's not worth discussing.

Your belief is that your view is THE view. You're not interested in a discussion, because you've already got the answers. You've already said I'm completely wrong. Why should I waste my time engaging in a discussion with someone who already knows what I've read, who I am, my credentials, my life history...without ever even asking?

NOW you ask, but I can see where this discussion is going to go. It's pointless, because you already know it all.

Simply put: Taking each issue (or administration) as being isolated and without connection; then things don't seem bad at all.

Again--even before you have the answers to the questions you've posed, you make an assumption about how I came to the conclusions I've reached. That's really stupid behavior.

BTW, although I have done everything from janitorial work to electronic publishing (it's always interesting to see how those who supposedly approve of working Americans and who, I'm guessing now, sniff at the liberal academic culture, always start off by putting down an opponent as one of those "computer techs at an elementary school" or some other "lower class" type), I'm neither a computer tech nor a teacher. (Nor a janitor.)

25 posted on 12/19/2008 9:11:15 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Atheist Pro-Lifer)
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To: Darkwolf377
That's really stupid behavior.

Struck a nerve, huh? I never called you stupid. You're the one who went on a personal attack.

That's such a blinkered view--"Things are bad NOW, thus, things will ALWAYS be bad from now on!"--that it's not worth discussing.

What is the origin of that term: Blinkered? Never heard that one before but it sounds vaguely British. Something the folks in the British army might utter. I trained with those guys on and off during my time on active duty.

"Things are bad NOW, thus, things will ALWAYS be bad from now on!"

Actually, it's been a progression if you've been paying attention to history. Things were pretty good in this country once upon a time, but they have been steadily progressing in a downward spiral that is unlikely to end any time soon. In fact in the last 16 years the agenda has expanded and accelerated. That trend will likely continue, IMHO. Sure we may get minor corrections upward like the current dip in fuel prices. But it's also science: Entropy, it's called (I'm not a science teacher, I'm a social studies guy, but my father in law has a Phd in nuclear physics) and basically it means that things always end. That the universe is constantly progressing from bad to worse.

I have done everything from janitorial work to electronic publishing

Nothing wrong with either of those. Honest labor for an honest wage. But I wouldn't think any of them could step into my classroom and take over my Advanced Placement American Government class for any amount of time and expect any kind of valid pedagogy from them. Conversely, I don't think I'd be any good at their job. But I do what I do very well. I'm actually at the top of my game, so to speak. It's probably not very common that an ultra liberal staff of over 150 educators will vote an ultra conservative peer (whose personal views they utterly abhor) as a social studies Teacher of the Year for that school.

Folks who know they're at a topical disadvantage will always start a rebuttal they intend to quit; with the phrase: ...it's not worth discussing. LOL.

You've already said I'm completely wrong. I did no such thing. I merely made some observations regarding your conclusions and I did that based solely on some inane statements you made about being optimistic as to the future of the country. I really don't know what conclusions you've reached because you have refused to share them. That's fine with me. But don't fall back on some lame disavowal that I've made up my mind. Well, sure, I have. But it's no reason not to put your views out there, unless you're shaky on their premise. Also remember that my conclusions have already been reached and published long before I ever held them. Actually for two thousand years give or take. So yes, I'm unshakable as to my conclusions as a matter of faith. But that has nothing to do with you.

27 posted on 12/19/2008 9:57:52 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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