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Leave it to Dungheap Harkin (the "Ol' Populist" -- he actually called himself that yesterday) to come up with a protracted government-centric scheme alleging to solve a multitude of problems (real and otherwise). Bail out the Big Three, preserve jobs, reduce Global Warming(TM), and make yourself a savior in the eyes of your clueless constituents, all with one swell bill.

How about the poor schmuck(ette) driving a '95 Tercel, Metro or Civic? Good luck finding a domestic new car rated 5 MPG higher than that.

And, where is the wisdom in encouraging a family making < $40K/year to take on thousands of dollars in car debt? Typical government "help."

1 posted on 12/16/2008 7:29:20 AM PST by newgeezer
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i see the price of cars going up at least 10K in the near future...


2 posted on 12/16/2008 7:31:39 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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More government.

Swell...


3 posted on 12/16/2008 7:32:23 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (MERRY CHRISTMAS!!)
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Oh great, more welfare for those that don’t pay any taxes to begin with.


4 posted on 12/16/2008 7:32:23 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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Ahhhh, artificial demand. Is there anything more American than government incentives for an undesirable product?


5 posted on 12/16/2008 7:33:06 AM PST by cartervt2k
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I see an increase in the number of new “fuel-efficient GM, Ford or Chrysler vehicles that are assembled in the United States with an average fuel economy of 25 miles per gallon” available on Craigslist for 8K under MSRP.


7 posted on 12/16/2008 7:33:43 AM PST by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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Jaw-dropping idiocy.........


8 posted on 12/16/2008 7:33:49 AM PST by RightOnline
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If I was one of the other American carmakers I’d sue for unfair business practices or something. This is just plain unfair and if not, it should be illegal.


9 posted on 12/16/2008 7:33:50 AM PST by umgud (I'm really happy I wasn't aborted)
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Hey I gotta better Idea...

Lets let all the Hollywood Libs like Oprah and Barbara etc, buy us all fuel efficient cars... They don’t need all them billions they got.


10 posted on 12/16/2008 7:34:08 AM PST by tomnbeverly ("In the hour of darkness and peril and need, the people will waken to listen and hear.....)
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So, I go out and buy a junker for $400, trade it in on a new car, get $10k back? Sounds good to me.........


13 posted on 12/16/2008 7:34:59 AM PST by Red Badger (Never has a man risen so far, so fast and is expected to do so much, for so many, with so little...)
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“The Sell Fuel Efficient Cars Act would provide a rebate of $10,000 to buyers who trade in a car more than 10 years old for a new American car.”

Does this mean an American car built in Tennessee with all American labor & parts but with a Japanese name badge? Or the “American” car assembled in Mexico with parts from all over?


14 posted on 12/16/2008 7:35:50 AM PST by mgc1122
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Good luck finding a domestic new car rated 5 MPG higher than that.

To clarify, this is from the press release:


15 posted on 12/16/2008 7:36:03 AM PST by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson)
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Like all Gov’t programs you only have to ask where the original 10,000 comes from.


16 posted on 12/16/2008 7:36:11 AM PST by Doc Savage ("Are you saying Jesus can't hit a curve ball? - Harris to Cerrano - Major League)
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Why only Chrysler, Ford and GM products? There are many fine automobiles built in the United States by non-union labor such as Nissan, Mercedes, Toyota, etc. Oh, that’s right, it’s about the UNIONS, not the manufacturers.

Senators Tom Harkin and Dick Durbin are two of the stupidest, far-left shills in a chamber known for both.


18 posted on 12/16/2008 7:36:57 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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Can’t see this one passing, but maybe they are after the sympathy, we love you, we care, good intentions, it is all in the feelings, from the IOA crowd.


19 posted on 12/16/2008 7:37:14 AM PST by wita
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What a great idea. The two step house rebate program, aka loans to the poor followed by a bailout, got all kinds of negative publicity. So now they skip the government loan phase and go straight to the rebate.


22 posted on 12/16/2008 7:38:37 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Dan 4:17 and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.)
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Just think what that will do to brand prestige. American car = “I’m on welfare”.


23 posted on 12/16/2008 7:39:22 AM PST by ecomcon
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Unintended consequences - Part 1: The Big Three can raise their prices to pocket most of the rebate and still be competitive with foreign cars, so that the net savings to buyers will be much smaller than the cost to taxpayers.

Unintended consequences - Part 2: Trade in value for used cars will fall by a huge amount, again lowering the net savings to buyers.

Unintended consequences - Part 3: In yet another waste of our tax dollars, money that would otherwise have been productively generating wealth will be transferred from our wallets through corrupt Washington officials to the big unions and big business. Our kids get to pay all that money back.

Sorry, I noticed the payback for big Democrat donors in this liberal tax-and-spend scheme, but I missed the upside.

25 posted on 12/16/2008 7:39:39 AM PST by MathDoc (War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. Obama is Good.)
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"The Sell Fuel Efficient Cars Act would provide a rebate of $10,000 to buyers who trade in a car more than 10 years old for a new American car."

Most excellent! I will trade in my 12 year old Jeep Cherokee for a Mercedes made in Tuscaloosa County Alabama, U.S.A,

28 posted on 12/16/2008 7:40:43 AM PST by avacado
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Fast Eddie down at the corner user car lot is drooling over this.

His inventory of 1994 Yugos just got more valuable.

"Buy a three-dollar car now for $500! Trade in tomorrow for $10k!

29 posted on 12/16/2008 7:40:50 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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The rebate would only apply to purchases of fuel-efficient GM, Ford or Chrysler vehicles that are assembled in the United States.

Ha! Ha! None of the above vehicles exist. All "American made" cars are manufactured in either Canada, Mexico, Brazil,...
Everywhere but here in America.

These demoncraps are sure willy little b******s aren't they?

30 posted on 12/16/2008 7:41:21 AM PST by The Anti-One (So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.)
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