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1 posted on 12/15/2008 7:29:33 AM PST by Sammy67
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To: Sammy67

More socialist paranoia about the Second Amendment.....


2 posted on 12/15/2008 7:35:13 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Sammy67
A small company, Ammunition Accountability--which wants to help anti-gunners price and regulate the Second Amendment out of existence, profit at the expense of our rights, or both . . . . .

Somehow, I don't see this going over too well in Texas.

3 posted on 12/15/2008 7:37:12 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Sammy67
So the new criminal gig will be trading ammunition on the way out of the store.

Scenario: Mr. X needs to be "offed". Y gives Z his ammo. Y flies to California. Mr. X is offed while he is there.

Old law: You can't be in two different places at the same time.

4 posted on 12/15/2008 7:37:59 AM PST by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: Sammy67

the election needs to be declared illegal and save us from this hell hole of progress.


5 posted on 12/15/2008 7:40:12 AM PST by television is just wrong
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To: Sammy67

what is to stop people from making their own?


6 posted on 12/15/2008 7:44:19 AM PST by Cailleach
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They'll have to regulate everything else, too; you can easily store several years' supply of components in a closet.

All you need is one of these to load 500 an hour:


7 posted on 12/15/2008 7:45:46 AM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?)
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How many bullets are used in a murder case as "single conclusive evidence" that Mo shot Larry?

The DC Sniper case is a good example. The shells matched but which one actually pulled the trigger in each shooting? We'll never really know.

8 posted on 12/15/2008 7:48:23 AM PST by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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Oh boy, Oh boy, something to replace Prohibition. “I thought that I was out but now they are going to pull me back in”.

D.C.


10 posted on 12/15/2008 7:54:36 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: Sammy67

Implement it on NY and I will go to a state where there is no registration.... Or start loading my own...


11 posted on 12/15/2008 7:55:36 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats: the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy and Sedition)
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There will be limits on possession. Unstamped ammo will be illegal to possess with criminal penalty. Per bullet taxes will be imposed to pay for the government directory and registration of ammo. Only ammo can be purchased and possessed for each registered firearm. The list of states and the proposed laws are documented on the Gun Owners of America website.

People, these proposed laws are dangerous. They were tried last year, and maybe the year before. Language on every state bill is almost identical. This is a national effort to undermine the 2nd Amendment.

The people behind this effort are commies.


12 posted on 12/15/2008 7:55:37 AM PST by o_zarkman44 (Since when is paying more, but getting less, considered Patriotic?)
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To: Sammy67

These jack-booted government thugs won’t like my method of ammunition disposal.


22 posted on 12/15/2008 8:55:46 AM PST by dainbramaged (the Tree of Liberty needs watering)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2148907/posts

Already posted, please search the title.


27 posted on 12/15/2008 9:59:28 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Guns don't kill people. Criminals and the governments that create them kill people.)
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To: Sammy67
Beat the rush. Buy now and buy plenty. Ammo will keep. It is not like eggs. It won't go bad in 10 days. Buy it, store it in cool, dry place. Here is what I found posted on the web for storage:

There has been much debate on what is the best way for long term storage of ammo, and while I cant say its wrong to place your ammo in a bucket and suck out all the air and replace it with nitrogen I can say it is a waste of valuable resources. O.K. if you plan being cryogenically frozen for hundreds of years then maybe. The rest of us just need to know what is the best way to properly store ammo so that it doesn’t degrade over a period of time and that it functions as designed when put into use. Now I need to give you some background on how and for what condition ammo is built. Military cartridges are designed so that they can withstand storage temperatures from minus 65 degrees F. to 122 F. So as long as you don’t keep them in a oven your fine. There made for soldiers to use in battlefield conditions under the most horrible conditions conceivable and still function. The manufactures (OLIN, Winchester, Remington Etc.) know this and they also know they will lose a big fat Govt contract if they don’t pass this criteria. Here is one for you, the same folks that make 5.56mm make the exact same cartridge and call it a 223 change the label and sell it civilian. Same with 308 (7.62 NATO). So now you know that there is hardly any difference between civilian and military ammunition manufacturing. Lets get down to storage.

Shelf life refers to how long an item can remain in storage and still be functional. Well all military small arms have an indefinite shelf life. This means as long as it is properly stored it will never go bad.

Service life refers to how long a item can remain in a operating configuration and still be functional. Small arms should be good from anywhere from 6 months to 18 months before you need inspect it. If the ammo has some corrosion on it take some copper wool or steel wool and take it off then its good to go unless it is to the stage of pitting then get rid of it. Now most ammo comes in a wooden outer container with metal inner packs that holds the ammo. We store it on at least two inches of dunnage to keep off the floor. It is inspected every five years and then only ten percent is checked for defects and then thrown back into storage for another 5 yrs. (if nothing is wrong). So now what can you do as a civilian to store your ammo? Your number one enemy is moisture, as long as you have a waterproof container you are fine. I use empty 20mm ammunition containers that you can get from any surplus store although PVC pipe will do. Try and keep the cartridges in the original packing and try and keep away from metal to metal contact. To ensure that the ammo has no moisture I throw in a couple of dehumidifier packages. This is strictly optional as we don’t even do that in the military. Whether its military ammo you got at a gun show or 22 shells from K-mart its all the same. Before you store it make sure its clean, dry( and wiped off if you touched it) and that’s it! Wow almost too simple. You don’t need to vacuum seal it, and you don’t need to store it at any particular temperature just keep it dry and out of the elements and leave it alone. I have been working with munitions for over 11 years, and this is what they have trained me. I hope this sheds some understanding on storage.

33 posted on 12/15/2008 11:19:29 AM PST by RetiredArmy (My home is protected by the 2d Amendment!! Locked and loaded.)
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bttt


37 posted on 12/15/2008 12:52:02 PM PST by SuperLuminal
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To: Sammy67

bttt


55 posted on 12/17/2008 1:39:19 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: Sammy67

Back in the early 80s, I attended a speech by the late Arkady Shevchenko, then the highest ranking Soviet official to defect to the West. He had been their top guy at the UN.

He spoke, interestingly, at KENNESAW COLLEGE — and we all know what Kennesaw is famous for! I’m proud to have played a a small role in helping Mayor Darvin Purdy get that legislation through the Kennesaw City Council.

His talk dealt with the clear intent of the leadership of the old Soviet Union to somehow take America. He mentioned their ICBMs and the nuclear blackmail threat they posed.

Then he broke from his prepared remarks and offered the audience this wisdom:

“The leaders of my country are as AFRAID OF YOUR 200 MILLION PRIVATE FIREARMS as they are of your ICBMs. NEVER GIVE UP YOUR GUNS.”

Frankly — and, while he had to be careful as he was under FBI protection at the time, Shevchenko alluded to this in his remarks — I’m as concerned about some domestic tyrant (say, a Hillary, Barack HUSSEIN Obama or Chuck Schumer) as I am about some foreign enemy.

And it is THAT threat about which the Founding Fathers were concerned that prompted them to leave us the Second Amendment.

The BIG question is: WILL WE KEEP IT?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j73SsNFgBO4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg9q9sxJFnA


59 posted on 12/19/2008 7:19:40 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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Here’s a thread on the same subject.


60 posted on 01/14/2009 1:48:15 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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