Dutch Murder Rate Almost six Times United States'

The Netherlands, like most other European countries, has very strict gun control laws. Nonetheless, the Dutch murder rate is almost six times as great as the United States' overall homicide rate.

> An estimated 5,981 people -- an average of 16 a day -- were killed by their doctors without their consent… And these numbers do not measure > several other groups that are put to death involuntarily: disabled infants, terminally ill children, and mental patients. [Notice that Hitler > began his genocidal programs with these groups, not Jews, Gypsies, or other ethnic minorities.] > …The path to the death culture began when doctors learned to think like accountants. As the cost of socialized medicine in the Netherlands grew, > doctors were lectured about the climbing cost of care. In many hospitals, signs were posted indicating how much old-age treatments cost taxpayers > ("The Dutch Way of Death," By Richard Miniter 04/25/2001 The Wall Street Journal Page A20 ). >

From FR thread, 10-2006:

World's Lowest Teen Pregnancy Rate: How Do the Dutch Do It?

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This small country boasts of the lowest teenage pregnancy and abortion rates in the world -- lower even than those in Sweden, another success story.[13]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1718946/posts

In all fairness to the Dutch, if you subtract their "murdered by muslim crazies in the street" numbers, the murder rate isn't all that bad.

Here's the murder rate in the US vs the Netherlands, according to nationmaster.com:

United States: 0.042802 murders per 1,000 people

Netherlands: 0.0111538 murders per 1,000 people

www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita

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Looking at the deadliest Dutch city... there were 26 murders in Amsterdam in 2007 according to http://www.expatica.com/nl/articles/news/Record-low-murder-rate-once-again.html

With a population of about 730,000, that works out to a murder rate of about 3.6/100,000.

For comparison, San Jose has consistently been ranked among the safest cities over 500,000 in the US. According to city-data.com, its murder rate for 2007 was 3.5/100,000.

Lorianne, this isn’t exactly “verifying” but I will share as it’s pertinent. Sorry I don’t have the details, I realize it’s not substantial without any names (!) but I will a post link if I can find, or another Freeper (you Catholics?) might know.

A few weeks ago I happened upon a program on EWTN about a doctor who founded a special hospital in New York that takes patients who are really in a bad way. Usually in final stages of cancer, but it could be other diseases, even accidents. These patients are extremely expensive to care for, and often “unattractive” due to severe degenerative effects of disease, etc. The type of patients who in Oregon are recommended for assisted suicide.

He (the Catholic doctor) and his staff have a whole different philosophy of patient care, being personal and loving instead of distant, and also of touching the patients, hugging, normal affection instead of the cold “professional” decorum mandated in most hospitals and medical schools.

OK, I’m coming to the point. Somehow this doctor was in Netherlands and met with a leading medical expert there. The Netherlands man had heard of this work and was curious so the N.Y. doctor brought films and pictures of his hospital and many of the patients.

The U.S. doctor was rather stunned at the response of the Netherlands doctor, whose reaction was amazement that any effort is made to keep these people alive and allow them to die naturally in accordance with religious principles. The Netherlands medical expert frankly told the US doctor straight out: “In our country, all these people would be euthanized long before they get to this stage.”

**An estimated 5,981 people — an average of 16 a day — were killed by their doctors without their consent… And these numbers do not measure > several other groups that are put to death involuntarily: disabled infants, terminally ill children, and mental patients.**

You point is right on — the quote is from the article. I’ll look for that thread about the doctor who took the unwanted patients because he had a heart and a conscience.

Anyone remember the title of that thread?

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