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Wolf kills of domestic animals is up in Idaho
The Associated Press ^ | 12/04/08

Posted on 12/13/2008 6:27:25 PM PST by george76

Wolves in Idaho have killed 325 cattle, sheep and dogs so far in 2008, the Idaho Department of Fish and Game says.

"You can't just keep stuffing wolves on top of each other,"

(Excerpt) Read more at idahostatesman.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Idaho; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: animalrights; ar; esa; g75; wildlife; wolf; wolfpacks; wolves
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To: org.whodat; jazusamo; Billthedrill

Robbins, who owns the 150,000-acre HD High Island Ranch on Owl Creek near Thermopolis, said he was told by a state predator control officer that eight gray wolves were captured in one net on his land.

He said one 3-5 year old cow weighing 1,200 pounds is valued at about $1,000.

“We’re missing 10-15 head,” Robbins said. His neighbor, who runs 300 head, is missing five.

The federal government “turned my ranch into a recovery zone for the wolf,” adding they “are willing to sacrifice us to get (wolves) delisted.”

In 10 years Robbins says he has never received any payment for loss of cattle to predators.

In one case he said a predator control officer observed a wolf eating a dead cow, but could not say what killed it.

“They can’t verify it, so they don’t pay you.

http://www.codyenterprise.com/articles/2004/03/08/news/news2.txt


61 posted on 12/13/2008 7:55:08 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Billthedrill
Wolves kill pet dog near Idaho City

Idaho Fish and Game officials confirmed Monday that wolves fatally mauled a dog last week in a rural Boise County subdivision northwest of Idaho City.

Idaho bear hound owner blames wolves for kill

Snippets: An Idaho couple blames wolves for killing a dog they used to hunt bears, though state Department of Fish and Game officials haven't confirmed the claim. Brent and Connie Ottosen, who live 20 miles south of Coeur d'Alene, believe a pack mauled and ate their 4-year-old hound, Blackjack, along the Coeur d'Alene River last week.

When they found the dog a day later, about two-thirds of its body had been eaten.

Wolves in Idaho, Montana and Wyoming remain a federally protected species after their reintroduction to the region more than a decade ago. A U.S. District Court judge in July blocked the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service from proceeding with a plan to lift Endangered Species Act protections pending resolution of a lawsuit by environmentalists.



Ottosen said he suspects wolves were behind the attack because of the way Blackjack was eaten.



"What canines do is eat through the rib bones. A lion or bear would go for a heart or liver," he said. "A typical wolf would eat about 20 pounds. There was never enough time for a mountain lion to eat that much."

North Idaho man kills wolf attacking his dogs

A Shoshone County man says a pack of gray wolves is getting within yards of his home, and just Tuesday, he shot and killed one, while it was attacking his pet dog near Mullan.

Wolves kill dogs Brutal weekend attack leaves family shaken

Last weekend a woman witnessed these wolves attack and kill two of her dogs just outside of her window, near Ashton, ID. She tried to scare them off and they ignored her (she’s probably lucky they did since she wasn’t using the correct deterrent).


Our ancestors did their best to get rid of the problem and then we re-created the problem that we are going to have to address, AGAIN.


This incident occurred east of Ashton. The wolves traveled down the reclamation road last night and killed 9 dogs.

Wolves kill six hunting dogs near Kamiah

Members of a northern Idaho family say 6 of their prized Walker hounds were killed in confrontations with wolves during a hunting excursion.

Idaho wolf update August 29 to September 12

Comment: this has very little information about what is really going on, and that is important now that the wolf population has begun to “unexpectedly” decline. Ralph Maughan

The USFWS has asked the states to provide mid-summer population estimates.  Idaho provided the Service with preliminary estimates that will likely be very different at the end of the year.  So far in Idaho this year, IDFG and the NPT estimate that there are 771 wolves and 89 packs, and biologists verified at least 155 pups so far.  Counting wolves is best done from November through mid- January prior to peak dispersal and breeding times, and when snow covered ground provides better observations conditions from the air.  Our end of year counts are finalized and published in the annual reports in March.  You can see previous year’s progress reports at: http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/cms/wildlife/wolves/manage/

From January 1 to Sept. 12 agencies have documented 112 dead wolves in Idaho.  Of those, 73 were depredation control actions by USDA Wildlife Services, 5 illegal kills, 13 legal kills, 3 natural kills, and 17 other.  An additional 9 wolves were suspected dead (reported road kills not verified, collars on mortality not picked up, etc.).  Depredation events are at record levels this year nearly doubling levels incurred last year at this time.

From 1/1/08 - 9/10/08,  WS [Wildlife Services] confirmed that wolves killed:  8 cows, 73 calves, 189 sheep, 10 dogs;  Injured:  1 cow, 7 calves, 6 sheep, 4 dogs; Probable killed:  5 cows, 19 calves, 52 sheep Injured:  1 cow, 3 calves, 1 sheep.

62 posted on 12/13/2008 7:58:59 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: Josh Painter; Eska; redpoll; RightWhale; ASOC

Wolves kill 6 moose for every moose harvested by a hunter in Alaska. Moose pops have collapsed in many areas due to combination of hunting and wolves. Alaskan tradition is every family deserves a moose for winter meat. Once that stops, you will see locals demanding massive wolf control. You will quickly have 2000 wolves rather than 20,000 wolves in Alaska.

In Sweden, they have 200 wolves, harvest 250,000 moose each year. In Alaska, 20,000 wolves, harvest less than 15,000 moose.

ht Eska


63 posted on 12/13/2008 8:00:58 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
“They can’t verify it, so they don’t pay you.

I've read various articles saying it's like pulling teeth to be reimbursed for wolf kills for that very reason.

Western states have gotten along fine without wolves for many years and it should remain that way, IMO.

64 posted on 12/13/2008 8:01:08 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

But wait. I have many more links.

8-)


65 posted on 12/13/2008 8:03:24 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: org.whodat

“Don’t the livestock owners get paid for the kills???”

Heck, yeah, and it’s only taxpayer’s money. Plenty more where that came from. Go, wolvies!


66 posted on 12/13/2008 8:05:09 PM PST by Robwin
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To: george76
The deer and elk hunters should just take them out during the season and eliminate the problem!

Years ago I just missed nailing one on the Idaho/Montana border in a snow storm by about 5 seconds!

67 posted on 12/13/2008 8:06:29 PM PST by dalereed
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To: george76

Yep, that’s exactly what I’m talking about. BTW, I’ve been through Thermopolis - it’s actually in Wyoming, on the way to the east entrance of Yellowstone if you start in Casper. Anyone owning 150,000 acres out there is a lucky fellow and probably has to work his butt off to maintain it. Gorgeous country.


68 posted on 12/13/2008 8:06:57 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Myrddin

Mira Mesa always an arm pit.

Hillcrest, BankerHill, Mission Hills, Downtown, upscale.
Condo’s in my neighborhood go from 1/2 million to 4 million a unit. I can look out to a new 42 story condo bldg up to 12 million a unit.
Safe neighboorhood, why many professionals especially Europeans live in it.

McCain owns 4 conds in San Diego and Mitt Romney bought a home here recently.


69 posted on 12/13/2008 8:06:58 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin - Jindal 2012)
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To: Billthedrill; glock rocks; tubebender; Jeff Head; GOP_Raider; MtnClimber; NVDave; rellimpank; ...

never go outside without a sidearm whose caliber begins with a number lower than 4.

ht glock rocks


70 posted on 12/13/2008 8:09:08 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

And proves absolutely nothing, except that the man does not know the law. There is no such thing as a game warden being on your land illegally. Law passed by congress many years ago says so!!


71 posted on 12/13/2008 8:13:51 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: SoCalPol
Mira Mesa was fine when I purchased my house there in 1983. The houses were 2 years old. My area was on the western edge of the developed area. By the time I sold in 2001, I was dead center. Graffiti all over the place. Drug deals. Drive by shootings. Home invasions. I was thrilled to get $242K from my initial $105K purchase and get out of dodge.

The house where I grew up in Chula Vista suffered the same fate. It's a dangerous place to be. My mom moved out to Rancho San Diego in 2005. Better, but not perfect. Given her age, it will be safe longer than she is likely to live.

72 posted on 12/13/2008 8:15:29 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: org.whodat; jazusamo

“I don’t feel any trust with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service,” commissioner Marie Fontaine added.

“Ed Bangs said they didn’t realize they were on private land ... there are so many questions.”

Kruger said the wildlife agents appeared to be “hiding in the bushes under a high bank by a road” when he drove past and spotted them.

The tranquilized wolves were lying nearby.

“If you have nothing to hide, why are you out there hiding?” French asked.

“Did those two guys fall from the sky with a wolf under each arm?”

http://www.codyenterprise.com/articles/2004/03/02/news/news2.txt


73 posted on 12/13/2008 8:15:46 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: org.whodat
There is no such thing as a game warden being on your land illegally. Law passed by congress many years ago says so!!

The 4th amendment was repealed? I must have missed that.

74 posted on 12/13/2008 8:16:53 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin
Ha!!! Yes as far as game wardens and revenuers are concerned. How did you think they found all those moonshine stills.!!!
75 posted on 12/13/2008 8:26:42 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: jazusamo

Lets see, he knew about the wolves chasing the two men! But he goes for a walk alone, sort of like taking a walk in a Wolf’s den isn’t it. Where was his gun and how many shots did he get off?? If the answer is none, he committed self inflected murder.


76 posted on 12/13/2008 8:32:19 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: org.whodat
See the link for a modern day means of finding the stills.

Frankly, I think they were motivated by finding good stuff at the right price.

77 posted on 12/13/2008 8:32:29 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Josh Painter
A woman in our church berated me for supporting Sarah Palin. She said how could I support a woman who had killed 280 wolves. I asked her her how she could support a candidate that supported abortion on demand and the killing of millions of American babies, most of them potential Christians...
78 posted on 12/13/2008 8:36:21 PM PST by tubebender (Retirement...The art and science of Killing time before it Kills you...)
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To: LeonardFMason
Wolves Suspected in Death of 22-year-old Ontario Man
79 posted on 12/13/2008 8:37:18 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: george76

Yes. The Glocks in .45 ACP look pretty good.


80 posted on 12/13/2008 8:40:26 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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