Posted on 12/12/2008 10:28:43 PM PST by DaveTesla
The decision by the U.S. Supreme Court this week not to
hear the case of Lisa Miller v. Janet Jenkins may,
effectively, send a Christian mother to jail for not
sharing Thanksgiving and her 6-year-old daughter
with her former lesbian partner.
Because the Supreme Court refused to hear her appeal,
Miller now faces trial dates in January and possible
contempt charges for refusing to comply with a lower
court's dictate that her former lesbian partner be
granted visitation rights with her daughter, Isabella
Miller.
The non-profit legal group Liberty Counsel has been
working on the case.
"Lisa Miller left the homosexual lifestyle and became a
Christian when Isabella was 17 months old," Liberty
Counsel explained. "Janet Jenkins, who was Lisa's same-
sex partner when Lisa gave birth to Isabella, then
sought full custody of Isabella, claiming she was a
parent even though she was not biologically related to
Isabella and never sought to adopt her."
But after a judge granted Jenkins visitation rights,
Liberty Counsel chairman Mathew Staver reports, little
Isabella began experiencing lingering effects of her
time with Jenkins.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Isabella was born in Virginia, and the Millers live in the state, but Miller was joined to Jenkins in a civil union in Vermont.
The Virginia State Supreme Court, however, stepped away from its own state’s precedents and affirmed that a Vermont civil union should control the case.
Sin can make life complicated.
So can activist courts.
> So can activist courts.
True! Activist courts are a part of “the wages of Sin.” We are forgiven our sins, but usually not protected from their natural consequences.
I swear if I’m ever in such a situation, I’d change my identity and my daughter’s, and disappear into a foreign country.
LET UNJUST JUDGES BE D*MNED!
What exactly is the “Franfurt School” you’re referring to?
Is converting to Christianity a sin? Seemed simple til then, no?
If the hardship was on the mother I would hope she was forgiven when she was saved.
But this involves an Innocent child.
And the courts are turning into dens of inequity.
Jenkins grew up in Falls Church, Va., with three siblings and devout Catholic parents. She attended parochial school from kindergarten through 12th grade, though she begged her parents to go to a secular, public school. By 19, she was already contemplating marriage. "I was engaged to a man," says Jenkins. "I tried not to be this way, but I just couldn't live a lie. Coming out for me was hell." She began binge drinking, an addiction that intensified after her brother Ricky committed suicide when she was 22. Shortly thereafter, Jenkins joined AA, "cleaned her life up" and met her partner of the next 12 years, a woman who was a Republican fundraiser (Jenkins worked as an office manager for a local florist). Jenkins says the two split in 1997 because she wanted children and her partner did not. Three months later, she met the woman who would change her life forever.Many lesbians insist that it's a choice. Interesting that this one doesn't.
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> Is converting to Christianity a sin?
No, it’s not. Obviously.
> Seemed simple til then, no?
It still is. Just because we find Jesus (or He finds us) and convert to Christianity, we aren’t necessarily protected from the consequences of our Sins. Even after they have been confessed and forgiven.
For example, if you rob a bank, then convert to Christianity, then get caught by the Law, you will be forgiven for the breach of “Thou Shalt Not Steal” and “Thou Shalt Not Covet.” But the Law will still put you in Gaol: that hasn’t changed. You still get the consequence even after being forgiven.
Same deal here: a woman committed the sin of Homosexuality, had a Child, found Jesus and was forgiven for the sin of Homosexuality. But the consequences of that lifestyle — in this case an ex- with visitation rights — stays with her.
The start of it all.
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=frankfurt+school+homosexual
It’s not a matter of “christians” vs “lesbians”. It’s yet another case of adults hurting each other by playing tug of war with children. Change the tags to “mother” vs “grandparents” and see how the replies in the thread change.
As to “The Virginia State Supreme Court, however, stepped away from its own states precedents and affirmed that a Vermont civil union should control the case” a more straight-forward article might have taken a few lines to further discuss Constitutional “Full Faith and Credit” clauses of law that necessarily lead to such rulings. But then again that might have undercut the bogeyman intent of the article.
Look on the bright side though. Now gays get to use their children as clubs against each other just as heterosexuals for so long have done. That’s real equality.
An opportunity to bash a Christian — it wouldn’t surprise me if this affected the outcome.
Gee, I’ll bet she thought all those pro G&L laws were just super when she was lickin chicken.
Hey, actions have consequences. I feel terrible for the child. Let my wife and I adopt her, we’ll never go queer.
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