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White House, Congress agree on auto bailout plan (It is not a "loan", stop the bailout madness!)
afp ^ | 12/10/2008 | afp

Posted on 12/10/2008 3:53:13 AM PST by tobyhill

The White House and Democratic congressional leaders said they had reached a deal in principle on a 15-billion-dollar rescue for the ailing automotive industry that could be ready for a vote Wednesday but many lawmakers remained skeptical of the bailout.

Even as details of the plan were still being hammered out, Democratic party leaders worked to rally support for a possible vote on the package in the House of Representatives.

Senator Carl Levin from Michigan, the base for the auto industry, said he understands that an "agreement has been reached," and that it was only a matter of time before a bill was ready for a vote.

"This gets us to the 20 yard line, but getting over the goal line will take a major effort," he said.

The White House said "a great deal of progress has been made" on the legislation to shore up the ailing Detroit Big Three -- General Motors, Ford and Chrysler .

In the most elaborate intervention in US industry in years, the tentative deal calls for emergency government loans to the car companies within days to be overseen by a "car czar" appointed by President George W. Bush.

In return, the automakers by March 31 would have to cut costs, settle debts and make other changes to show a path to viability or otherwise face possible bankruptcy.

The government could choose to revoke the loans if the companies failed to make progress, or could refuse further assistance after March 31 if there was no realistic survival plan for the Big Three, officials said.

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1 posted on 12/10/2008 3:53:13 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

They are doomed, let them die already.


2 posted on 12/10/2008 4:05:23 AM PST by agere_contra (So ... where's the birth certificate?)
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To: tobyhill

It sounds like Ford will not be taking the bailout. I would think that Ford ought to be stressing that they are not part of the bailout and distance themselves from this and the car czar. It will help Ford sell lots of cars.

I and many others will never buy a car from a company that gets in on this bailout.


3 posted on 12/10/2008 4:06:43 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: tobyhill
Another liberal program by our liberal President Bush... he is bragging about this POS this very morning... only problem... it will be much worse under the marxist that will replace him. At least Mitch McConnell is not on board and is saying there may not be enough Republicans to get this passed.

Please GOD... please stop this madness... Amen.

LLS

4 posted on 12/10/2008 4:12:01 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!! so sue me!)
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To: caver
Ford will continue to build Large Trucks and SUVs while others build the US mandated version of the Yugo.
5 posted on 12/10/2008 4:12:57 AM PST by tobyhill (No Honeymoon For Obama.)
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To: caver

Ford saw this coming and restructured beforehand, shutting down factories (one here in Norfolk, VA) to cut costs.

Maybe FoMoCo is a little more fiscally responsible?

Me? I drive an American built Nissan truck (2007 Titan), a Mexican built VW (2008 New Beetle) and a German built VW (1969 Beetle).


6 posted on 12/10/2008 4:13:41 AM PST by fredhead (A good day is one where you wake up without dirt in your face.)
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To: tobyhill

Ford might well be the only US car company left standing in a year or so.


7 posted on 12/10/2008 4:16:23 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: tobyhill
It's a UAW bailout plan.

Note to Congress: And you vote for it at your political peril....

8 posted on 12/10/2008 4:17:57 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: tobyhill

Auto makers who fail should not be “rescued.” Legislators who rescue them should be RECALLED.


9 posted on 12/10/2008 4:19:54 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Public education is a welfare program. Do you indulge?)
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To: tobyhill
It is this kind of crap that led me to change my party affiliation from GOP to "unaffiliated." How can any political party be so stupid in offering a $15 billion welfare payment to the same group of thugs, namely the UAW, that does everything it can to defeat as many conservatives as possible in every single election?

If it was up to me, I would have told the Big 3 to drop dead and the UAW to go screw itself. And yes, I do believe that the loss of the Big 3 is a small price to pay if it means defunding the UAW.

10 posted on 12/10/2008 4:20:45 AM PST by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: fredhead
I hope Ford runs completely away from this government disaster.

They can still remain FoMoCo.

GM will become a MoFoCo.

11 posted on 12/10/2008 4:21:32 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority ((Barack Obama...stuck on stupid and idle as the world races by him like a bullet train...)
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To: mewzilla
There's only one reason the Rats want the bailout now, to call it bipartisan when it fails.
12 posted on 12/10/2008 4:21:46 AM PST by tobyhill (No Honeymoon For Obama.)
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To: tobyhill
I just hope to Heaven it fails. My Critter voted for the last bailout after voting against it. Guess what? He's toast, and good riddance. His fate, and that of the other Pubbie Critters who lost, should be a lesson to them all.
13 posted on 12/10/2008 4:26:01 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: caver
"I and many others will never buy a car from a company that gets in on this bailout."

Why not? You'll be paying them (with your taxes) and not even getting the car?

LOL

/sarc

14 posted on 12/10/2008 4:47:54 AM PST by traditional1 ("The American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery")
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To: traditional1

“Why not? You’ll be paying them (with your taxes) and not even getting the car?”

Yea, I know........


15 posted on 12/10/2008 4:53:07 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: agere_contra
Nobody likes the bailout. However, the alternative is unpalatable.
16 posted on 12/10/2008 5:01:29 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (I would continue my rant but I have to make sure my tires are inflated.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Why ? Rewarding failure is good ? Funding overcapacity in the auto industry is good ? Funding gold-plated medical plans and pensions and jobs banks is a good use of tax money ? You want to indebt your grandchildren for that ?

Geez, let’s end with the “no jobs lost” theme. Take our pain, move to a level in the economy that’s sustainable. Lots of other industries have closed plants and offices and more will within the next year. Why should autos be immune ?


17 posted on 12/10/2008 5:07:45 AM PST by nicola_tesla (www.fedupusa.org)
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To: caver
Sign me up! I'm absolutely proud of Ford.

It would seem a wise move to not be burdened with greater debt with the added pain of some clueless politician car-czar influencing how the business is run. If their future holds Ch.11, at least they will not scam billions from American taxpayers in the process.

18 posted on 12/10/2008 5:11:32 AM PST by Made In The USA (Liberalism is a sign of stupidity.)
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To: tobyhill

If the UAW is not curtailed, then all the bailouts in the world will not help these industries. We just closed two division in our company, why can’t they?


19 posted on 12/10/2008 5:17:28 AM PST by doodad
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To: mewzilla
Correct. Let me repeat that with emphasis. They are getting what they paid the Dem party for:

The Great UAW BAILOUT of 2008

20 posted on 12/10/2008 5:21:27 AM PST by webschooner
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