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To: PlainOleAmerican

I am temporarily going to play devils advocate here.

The SCOTUS will pass this up on several levels, first off because of the major disruptive issues that will entail afterward”s. First off would be the fact that every issue, nominee and position given out by Obama would have to be nullified, this cannot happen, a rotten potato has been placed under a massive pile of other potatoes and looking for and finding the rotten one will only damage the rest.
So in the eyes of the courts they do not want to damage the pile.

Another aspect of why this case will go nowhere is that if they did eventually find because of Obamas dual citizenship that future political candidates running for ANY office must follow those guidelines of natural borne unless they knew that at a later stage like the governor of California they could never be nominated for presidency, in Obamas case he probably never thought he had a chance to get where he is now and thus surfed on what credentials he did have which were enough until certain groups saw him as the answer to their prayers and moved him further up with massive cash influxed over several years with the manipulation of the MSM to promote his position towards becoming POTUS..

So they cannot enforce the requirements of the Constitution because it would require a complete overhaul of the election system making it too honest and fair, it would backtrack to too many offices and lawsuits about eligibility factors.

And then of course is the fear factor that they are afraid of flaming cities of deranged supporters running amok and challenging authorities.They are also afraid of past skeletons coming out of closets possibly their very own.

Obama will become President because he has studied for years all the loopholes of getting the Presidency, in effect he has become the ultimate lawyer using words and twisted facts that the jury can only believe because if they questioned anything it would mean years of sequestering and nobody wants that.


44 posted on 12/07/2008 12:09:17 PM PST by Eye of Unk (Americans should lead America, its the right way.)
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Eye of Unk (Americans should lead America, its the right way.)

Then SCOTUS should give us an American president...


60 posted on 12/07/2008 12:23:07 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Eye of Unk

I won’t address the points in your post, but I will go on record as saying that in my estimation, every single one of them is dead wrong.

Everything you’ve stated has been theorized on these threads, and has been summarily overturned with excellent logic and reasoning, supported by historical fact, case law, and constitutional precedent.

If Donofrio’s case does not pass muster for the 9, another one will. The issue is clearly within the scope and mandate of the SC, and is of real substance. It either will be addressed by them, or the republic will unravel.


194 posted on 12/07/2008 2:14:12 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Eye of Unk

When life gives you potatos...

Maybe it’s time to make potato salad...

“So they cannot enforce the requirements of the Constitution because it would require a complete overhaul of the election system making it too honest and fair, it would backtrack to too many offices and lawsuits about eligibility factors.”

The that makes their position extremely tentative...If they cannot or will not discharge the duties of their office, they themselves become null and void...

And if that starts a ripple effect of elected officials from the top down becoming less and less effective in their duties...I’m ok with that being all the excuse we need to send the entire lot packing...

We get a chance to do this every two years...

If your devils advocate position advocates supporting letting things go...Then you become part of the problem...

You have joined forces with the intellectually lazy, and those politicos who have managed to weasel their way into this position...

Now...Forgive me if I am too harsh, or maybe I am wrong about you, but I am just shooting from the hip based upon what you just said here...Nothing personal, and if I am wrong, I stand to be corrected...

I would like to think that the Supreme Court would put this issue to bed once and for all, but at least give us closure, and a clear one at that...

If we obsess too long on his birthright, and it turns out to be a non-issue, then we would have been wasting our time...When we could be battling the upcoming wave of infringements and other losses of freedom that are for sure to come...We’ve seen them...And we had better be sharp and be ready to fight them even before they come to the table...

I for one would actually love to see this be proven to be true that he is a foriegn born citizen and is unable to become President of these United States...

This may actually be the battle they want us to fight, instead of preparing for the other stuff coming up...

Be careful what you wish for is what I would say to some...

Just my opinion...


195 posted on 12/07/2008 2:16:04 PM PST by stevie_d_64
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To: Eye of Unk
"I am temporarily going to play devils advocate here."

You really didn't have to do that. You are becoming part of the problem rather than being part of the solution.

208 posted on 12/07/2008 2:53:44 PM PST by An Old Man
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To: Eye of Unk

“First off would be the fact that every issue, nominee and position given out by Obama would have to be nullified, this cannot happen, a rotten potato has been placed under a massive pile of other potatoes and looking for and finding the rotten one will only damage the rest.”

This is still VASTLY better than having the legitimacy of every piece of legislation signed by him as President called into question.


307 posted on 12/08/2008 3:34:03 AM PST by Nipfan (The desire to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it - H L Mencken)
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