Posted on 12/06/2008 9:43:49 PM PST by pissant
The continuing efforts of a fringe group of conservatives to deny Obama his victory and to lay the basis for the claim that he is not a legitimate president is embarrassing and destructive. The fact that these efforts are being led by Alan Keyes, an unhinged demagogue on the political fringe who lost a senate election to the then unknown Obama by 42 points should be a warning in itself.
This tempest over whether Obama, the child of an American citizen, was born on American soil is tantamount to the Democrats' seditious claim that Bush "stole" the election in Florida and hence was not the legitimate president. This delusion helped to create the Democrats' Bush derangement syndrome and encouraged Democratic leaders to lie about the origins of the Iraq War, and regard it as illegitimate as Bush himself. It became "Bush's War" rather than an American War with destructive consequences for our troops and our cause.
The Birth Certificate zealots are essentially arguing that 64 million voters should be disenfranchised because of a contested technicality as to whether Obama was born on U.S. soil. (McCain narrowly escaped the problem by being born in the Panama Canal zone, which is no longer American.)
What difference does it make to the future of this country whether Obama was born on US soil? Advocates of this destructive campaign will argue that the Constitutional principle regarding the qualifications for President trumps all others. But how viable will our Constitution be if 5 Supreme Court justices should decide to void 64 million ballots?
Conservatives are supposed to respect the organic nature of human societies. Ours has been riven by profound disagreements that have been deepening over many years. We are divided not only about political facts and social values, but also about what the Constitution itself means. The crusaders on this issue choose to ignore these problems and are proposing to deny the will of 64 million voters by appealing to 5 Supreme Court Justices (since no one is delusional enough to think that the 4 liberal justices are going to take the presidency away from Obama). What kind of conservatism is this?
It is not conservatism; it is sore loserism and quite radical in its intent. Respect for election results is one of the most durable bulwarks of our unity as a nation. Conservatives need to accept the fact that we lost the election, and get over it; and get on with the important business of reviving our country's economy and defending its citizens, and -- by the way -- its Constitution.
yet another ill informed conservative with Obama-itis.
So, appealing to the cooler-headed FReepers: look, is this a non-issue or not? Is it what Horowitz calls it, the conservative version of the unhinged "stolen-election" rant?
I’m not hushing up about this, it is the best thing to happen in a long time he possibly can be unseated before he is inaugurated.
Yes there are. But sweeping it under the rug because “64 million” voted for the commie ain’t one of ‘em.
Right this is a issue of whether or not the US Constitution matters or not.
David and the rest are right. He has been elected. Even if you are right this is such a strange technicality that it means squat. He is elected and no one but no one can take it away from him now. Geez, his mom was a US citizen.
David Horowitz was once ungrounded enough to be in the SDS. After that, he found his footing, but on exactly what ground?
There are also a lot of dismissive punks here on FR as well.
Aside from the very REAL isues of Zero’s eligibility, at the very least, respect for the Constitution as the ultimate law of the land will receive a badly needed boost.
Whatever the Supreme Court decides, the American people deserve to have complete information. That they didn’t have it a year or more ago is the result of seditious behavior by both Obama and the MSM.
“(McCain narrowly escaped the problem by being born in the Panama Canal zone, which is no longer American.) “
I thought it didn’t matter because McCain’s parents were both US citizens anyway?
This former left-wing radical, if I recall, the son of left-wingers, thinks The Constitution of the United States of America is a set of "technicalities."
Lets do a comparison:
Fact: Obama admitted that he was a British subject and a Kenyan citizen.
Fact: Obama has hired 3 law firms to fight the lawsuits trying see the truth written on his long form birth certificate.
"Democrats' Bush derangement syndrome"
The 911 Truthers who say 'Bush knew' premise.
supporting facts ??
None.
Horowitz was a socialist most of his life, and decided to become a conservative when he realized how stupid liberalism is, but he is only half way there.
we need to ignore him. He is behind the ball of knowledge on this one.
If he ain’t a natural born citizen, he ain’t president. Very simple.
Look, who among conservatives is going with this story?
Your answer should tell you how legit it may be.
Horowitz, Malkin, Limbaugh, Medved, Hannity, ad infinitum, aren’t touching it. If credentialed conservatives aren’t jumping on the bandwagon then there has...
...Gotta be a reason, folks.
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