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David Horowitz: Obama Derangement Syndrome- Conservatives Need to Shut Up About the Birth Cert.
HNN ^ | 12/6/08 | David Horowitz

Posted on 12/06/2008 9:43:49 PM PST by pissant

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To: sageb1

LOL


61 posted on 12/06/2008 10:21:40 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: norge

Ok, you asked for a reason and I gave you a possibility. Whether it’s nonsense, it could be or not. He does broadcast on Clear Channel stations so he’s connect to the MSM in that way.


62 posted on 12/06/2008 10:22:14 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: pissant

This person is apparently unaware that we tried and tried to raise this issue BEFORE the election. No post-election shenanigans are going on here, as he not-so-subtley suggests. No sore losers. Just the simple, humble request that our government actually abides by the Constitution that governs it. TO proclaim that the question of Obama’s citizenship is somehow new or inconsequential is, frankly, disgraceful.

No, we don’t throw out 64 millions votes. Obama himself is just unable to attain the presidency. It is illegal. Joe Biden would be fully capable of staying on as vice president and filling the vacancy of president, I suppose. So the ticket that was elected in would still remain, ultimately, in power. Unless, of course, the fraud involved could be deemed significant enough to invalidate the election.

But most people aren’t calling for that extreme of a solution. We just want what we’ve been asking for for about eight months now - Obama to produce his birth certificate.

Why is that so hard? And why are we the bad guys for wanting something settled that Obama could settle in less than 15 seconds just by producing the document?


63 posted on 12/06/2008 10:22:51 PM PST by COgamer
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To: Sharrukin

Hear! Hear!

My rationale precisely.


64 posted on 12/06/2008 10:23:32 PM PST by EyeGuy
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To: pissant

He’s right though that Keyes is an unhinged demagogue.


65 posted on 12/06/2008 10:23:32 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: norge

I don’t think it is a question of him being a citizen; per se. It has to do with natural born.

Of course, I do realize Obama is like the Clintons and believe they need to hide everything.


66 posted on 12/06/2008 10:26:02 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: pissant
Advocates of this destructive campaign will argue that the Constitutional principle regarding the qualifications for President trumps all others. But how viable will our Constitution be if 5 Supreme Court justices should decide to void 64 million ballots? Note the Dems in 2000 did NOT say they had the Constituion backing them up. They actually ignored it. Here, this guy takes a further leap into the wilderness. He says so what about the darn Constitution. Societal cohesion is more important. With that standard, anything the masses want MUST be approved.
67 posted on 12/06/2008 10:26:03 PM PST by PghBaldy (I shall call him President Little Squirt...)
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To: BunnySlippers

I also hear he stomps kittens!

So what?


68 posted on 12/06/2008 10:26:07 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: the invisib1e hand
Is it what Horowitz calls it, the conservative version of the unhinged "stolen-election" rant?

I don't give a feces what Horowitz calls it. Comparing this to the 2000 election is totally specious. Funny how conservatives are now the "moonbats" according to the Left, and right on que "conservative" columnists want to get along to go along and be like the Cubs and say wait for next election.

Well, I don't care who is "disenfranchised" or seeing people weeping in the streets if Obama is disqualified. I don't care about the riots and I say bring them on. We need to have this fight and I'd rather have riots which will die down eventually and our Constitution emerging stronger than ever instead of seeing this travesty and our Republic going to pot.

69 posted on 12/06/2008 10:26:48 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: pissant
I'd be happy to see this argument go away...how about right after Obama releases his birth certificate?
70 posted on 12/06/2008 10:26:53 PM PST by highlander_UW (The only difference between the MSM and the DNC is the MSM sells ad space in their propaganda)
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To: pissant

David... the Dr. called:
He said you are suffering from RCI.
(Rectal Cranial Inversion) Please take your head out before you start spouting off about the birth certificate that Obama refuses to disclose!


71 posted on 12/06/2008 10:27:03 PM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: BunnySlippers

Keyes might be; but sometimes mad men make sense.


72 posted on 12/06/2008 10:27:24 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: COgamer
David Horowitz is actually a good guy and someone you should read Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left

Not sure yet why he's taken this tack.

73 posted on 12/06/2008 10:27:37 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade, There are only two sides. Pick one.)
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To: Sharrukin
I think a lot of ‘conservatives’ have decided that domestic peace is worth more than upholding a portion of the constitution.

I think a whole lot of people are trying to redefine conservative... and the constitution.

I think, as a nation, we had better look to those "rebels"... those fringed fanatic founders.

74 posted on 12/06/2008 10:27:39 PM PST by exhaustedmomma (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should. Samuel Adams)
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To: libbylu

The fact that you think the fact that his mother was a U.S. citizen decides the issue shows that you haven’t been paying attention.

Obama is almost certainly NOT a U.S. citizen—not when he was born, and not NOW.


75 posted on 12/06/2008 10:27:41 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: norge

They are just followers. They are afraid to be wrong.


76 posted on 12/06/2008 10:28:15 PM PST by PghBaldy (I shall call him President Little Squirt...)
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To: libbylu
Geez, his mom was a US citizen.

You've been here for 10 years - read up on this instead of shooting from the hip.

77 posted on 12/06/2008 10:28:46 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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78 posted on 12/06/2008 10:30:56 PM PST by STARWISE ((They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: pepperhead
McCain showed his birth certificate to reporters. He also showed them his medical records to them. 0bama to my knowledge has done neither.

The New York Times, Washington Post, and I think the LA Times all ran articles from about March to July about McCain's eligibility question to be president. And not a peep out these guys about Obama's natural born citizen problem.

So who are the loons us or the MSM?

79 posted on 12/06/2008 10:30:58 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: PghBaldy

“They are just followers. They are afraid to be wrong.”

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You are right.

So why don’t they just say:

“Look, I believe Obama is qualified but we MUST follow the Constitution regarding eligibility. He must pass through the Constitutional filter, which can be as simple as producing a valid birth certificate. This is neither an unfair or purely technical matter. It is the law”


80 posted on 12/06/2008 10:32:02 PM PST by EyeGuy
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