Jesus Versus the Atheists (Washington State Gov. Gregoire insults Christians Worldwide)

Townhall ^ | Dec 6, 2008 | Bill O'Reilly

[SeekAndFind]

Just in time for the Christmas season, Washington State Gov. Christine Gregoire has insulted Christians all over the world. Inside the state Capitol building in Olympia there is a traditional holiday display featuring a tree and the Nativity scene; perfectly appropriate since the federal and state Christmas holiday celebrates the birth of Jesus in Bethlehem.

But this year Gregoire decided to add another item to the display. Standing alongside the baby Jesus is a giant placard designed by atheists that reads: "There are no gods, no devils, no angels, no heaven or hell. There is only our natural world. Religion is but myth and superstition that hardens hearts and enslaves minds."

You read that correctly. The governor of Washington State has permitted an attack on religion to be displayed in her office building as part of a Christmas presentation.

Even the producers of "The Twilight Zone" would have rejected this script as being too far-fetched. Gregoire's behavior is offensive, insulting to all people of faith and totally incomprehensible.

Unless you know what's going on in Washington State.

Seattle now rivals San Francisco for secular-progressive nuttiness. The city fathers are allowing public nakedness in city parks and nude bike riding, and in Fremont, a Seattle suburb, they actually put up a statue honoring Vladimir Lenin, the father of communism.

Some on the Seattle school board actually supported denigrating Thanksgiving by teaching children about the atrocities against Native Americans by the Pilgrims.

In addition, Washington State voters have passed assisted-suicide legislation, and the state gives out free birth control pills, including the "morning after pill."

On the quality-of-life front, the streets of Seattle are full of homeless people, but they don't have to be out in the rain. The city will pay to house alcoholics and drug addicts if they want it. They can actually get free furnished apartments. Taxpayers, of course, pick up the tab.

Outside of the Seattle area, Washington State is fairly conservative. But the big-city population base rules, and far-left zealots are running wild. However, they may have overstepped on this Christmas deal.

I believe that most Americans, even those living in the far-left enclaves, respect uplifting traditions like Christmas, where peace and love is the theme of the great day. Calling religion "enslaving" doesn't exactly fit into the peace and love scenario, does it? Can't we all just get along for a few weeks in December?

The answer to that question is no. Not in Washington State, where the governor believes a few nuts have a legal right to run down the Christmas tradition in the lobby of the Capitol building. At this point there is little left to say except this: Where are the wise men when you need them?

[the OlLine Rebel]

Jefferson was not a non-Christian (these are huge falsehoods), and neither were the men such as Adams and Franklin who helped tweak it, nor the other men on the committee Livingston and Sherman.

[GOP Poet]

Maybe Leningrad instead?

[Pelagius of Asturias]

I contend that all modern militant Christians are the same. They have one overwhelming unconscious common goal, marching lock step to a piper of group think. Now a days they have a big intolerant badge that they all wear and it morphs right into the greater group think of the Preacher overlords. They just don’t make good independent Christians like they used to.

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[Lorianne]

Just let liberals know how shameful you think Native Americans are treated in Seattle. Why are they left to sleep on the streets in the cold and rain? Where is their compassion?

I saw it with my own eyes, yet they try to tell me the Pac NW is such a ‘progressive’ place.

[muawiyah]

Not likely. You do know there’s a Theist wing of Christianity. If you mean Jefferson, he simply wanted to rewrite the New Testament to match his own beliefs ~ that doesn’t make you a non-Christian, just a redactor.

[Earthdweller]

"Would it be better if it was a Muslim placard claiming that Jesus was not anybody’s saviour, just an ordinary prophet?"

Are your seriously saying that the condemnation of a religion or belief is is the same as a religious display? Muslims would have a picture of their prophet on display or something of that sort...not a sign that says I think what you believe s@cks. That's just ridiculous, immature and insulting.

[muawiyah]

See what I meant by that defective visual accuity system Atheists have. That's the SECOND misread of what I said.

I'm not sure they can even understand what they see. The poor dears. I'm sure God has a place for them eh!

[Earthdweller]

Now you know how I feel about you. Kinda like looking in a mirror isn't it? Except I'm not endorsing a sign by Billy Grahm in the town square that says you are a retard.

[Lorianne]

While true, intolerance against Christians IS the ‘cool’ and accepted bigotry currently.

Ditto Southerners, especially white male Southerners. Very cool to blanket stereotype them with all kinds of negative traits.

[muawiyah]

Took me about 5 seconds to find a perfectly good reference to the study on the Internet. Just look up atheists 30 milliseconds.

Isn't it amazing how such a simple and straightforward search option eluded you?

Better see an opthamologist before that gets worse eh.

[Clemenza]

Jefferson was A DEIST. His god was NOT the transcendant god believed by Christians. Franklin oscillated between (non-orthodox) Christianity and Deism, but settled on the latter by the end of his life. Adams WAS a Christian, but often highly critical of his own faith.

The founders were a mixed lot in terms of religious opinions, although few were of the orthodox/Calvinist variety. The second and third Great Awakenings, which came a few decades after the founding, were a much bigger factor in pushing Christian political activism to the forefront in national politics (although even in the revolution, there were large communities of "Christian activists" in support of the cause. See, the Baptists as a case in point).

I find it interesting that the GOP nominated a not-very-serious Quaker (!) as their candidate (Nixon), and a believing, but non-Churchgoing Christian as their candidate (Ronaldus Magnus), but it seems to me that such men would have difficulty being vetted by the Churchianists (notice I didn't say Christians).

[muawiyah]

Look it up. Don't let a defect in your visual accuity stop you.

Make it a personal test of your due diligence and ability to persevere under adverse conditions. Overcome your handicap!

That's what the holy joes do.

[muawiyah]

At the same time, they detect motion much faster than Atheists, and as a consequence are “more aware” of reality.

[muawiyah]

I am. Some Christers, as they call everybody else, have a bad attitude and want to kick a$$.

[muawiyah]

The Deist appellation is of quite modern provenance. Jefferson focused his attention on the New Testament. That pretty much makes you a Christian.

Now, did he pray in the Christian fashion? Did he follow all the quibbling rules of the dominant denomination? Was he maybe influenced by Quaker thoughts? Did he know any Jews?

[Pelagius of Asturias]

For a strict Muslim, any painting, picture or representation of any human is a sin. There are many passages in the Quran that denegrate Jews and Christians by calling them apes and pigs. They don't have to make any thing up. How about Sura 2 verse 96 - Jews are the greediest of all humankind. They'd like to live 1000 years. But they are going to hell. Sura 4:47 is a good one - Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.

[CE2949BB]

See what I meant by that defective visual accuity system Atheists have. That's the SECOND misread of what I said.

Nothing was "misread".

To quote you:

The anti-Ateists need a sign ~ "Atheists have response times in their optic nerve and visual cortex that are much slower than those of normal human beings."

Recent research places the difference at a critical 30 milliseconds ~ and when it comes to detecting otion that's enough to make you accident prone and unable to think more than a couple of steps ahead.

Frankly, I don't think the Atheists would care to have a scientifically accurate and provable sign concerning their "slowness" posted anywhere.

I'm not sure they can even understand what they see. The poor dears. I'm sure God has a place for them eh!

My FRiend, you have just proven what is wrong with a lot of believers.

You made an absurd statement and refused to back it up when asked for proof.

The only result for a Google search - site:www.freerepublic.com +defective +visual +acuity - is a post about Ridge being color blind.

You do your faith a disservice.

Maybe it was a failed attempt at humor?

[muawiyah]

BTW, regarding Nixon, he was pretty typical of Midwestern Quakers. The Civil War broke the back of the old strucures built up by the Camisard and Quaker movements. It's hard to tell the difference between a modern Quaker church in Indiana and a Presbyterian or Methodist church. There are still some old meeting houses around ~ I know of one near Crawfordsville that's maintained out of charitable contributions. There are more of the old type in the Eastern states.

As far as Ronaldus Magnus going to church, he belonged to the Disciples of Christ, as I do, and I can't recall the rule about going to church ~ 'CAUSE THERE AIN'T ONE!

He did bring in preachers and such for services at the White House.

[Pelagius of Asturias]

I have an eversion to being goaded into looking up bulls**t.

[Eva]

All you need to know about WA State is that Seattle has the third largest Gay population in the country, after SF and Miami. Everything that happens here can be traced to the Gay agenda, including the environazi movement.

I don’t really care what gays do, whether they want to get married or whatever, I just don’t want them to be able to come into the schools and churches and force their way of thinking on me and my family, and friends. That is their goal, thought control. They want to steal the innocence of children in order to force the acceptance of homosexual life style into their consciousness. The Gays know that if they wait until a child becomes natually sexually aware, that homosexual behavior will be perceived as an aberration.