The only "magical dust" I can think of is from Genesis.
There is no God but life some how was able to sprout from some goo?
Goo? What "goo" are you talking about?
That's science!
Posted on 12/06/2008 6:51:08 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Just in time for the Christmas season, Washington State Gov. Christine Gregoire has insulted Christians all over the world. Inside the state Capitol building in Olympia there is a traditional holiday display featuring a tree and the Nativity scene; perfectly appropriate since the federal and state Christmas holiday celebrates the birth of Jesus in Bethlehem.
But this year Gregoire decided to add another item to the display. Standing alongside the baby Jesus is a giant placard designed by atheists that reads: "There are no gods, no devils, no angels, no heaven or hell. There is only our natural world. Religion is but myth and superstition that hardens hearts and enslaves minds."
You read that correctly. The governor of Washington State has permitted an attack on religion to be displayed in her office building as part of a Christmas presentation.
Even the producers of "The Twilight Zone" would have rejected this script as being too far-fetched. Gregoire's behavior is offensive, insulting to all people of faith and totally incomprehensible.
Unless you know what's going on in Washington State.
Seattle now rivals San Francisco for secular-progressive nuttiness. The city fathers are allowing public nakedness in city parks and nude bike riding, and in Fremont, a Seattle suburb, they actually put up a statue honoring Vladimir Lenin, the father of communism.
Some on the Seattle school board actually supported denigrating Thanksgiving by teaching children about the atrocities against Native Americans by the Pilgrims.
In addition, Washington State voters have passed assisted-suicide legislation, and the state gives out free birth control pills, including the "morning after pill."
On the quality-of-life front, the streets of Seattle are full of homeless people, but they don't have to be out in the rain. The city will pay to house alcoholics and drug addicts if they want it. They can actually get free furnished apartments. Taxpayers, of course, pick up the tab.
Outside of the Seattle area, Washington State is fairly conservative. But the big-city population base rules, and far-left zealots are running wild. However, they may have overstepped on this Christmas deal.
I believe that most Americans, even those living in the far-left enclaves, respect uplifting traditions like Christmas, where peace and love is the theme of the great day. Calling religion "enslaving" doesn't exactly fit into the peace and love scenario, does it? Can't we all just get along for a few weeks in December?
The answer to that question is no. Not in Washington State, where the governor believes a few nuts have a legal right to run down the Christmas tradition in the lobby of the Capitol building. At this point there is little left to say except this: Where are the wise men when you need them?
Make new discoveries and trash the old, one theory is obsolete but the new one is gold.
Nice substantitive argument...
Regarding the clause, “Congress shall pass no law respecting an establishment of religion...”
I would argue the following:
1. If indeed the intent of the Constitution was Federal Gov’t religious neutrality, doesn’t it follow that State gov’ts WITHIN the Federation should be subject to the same interpretation?
2. A nativity scene in a State building is essentially “respecting an establishment of one particular religion.” Consider that there are Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. who are State residents and taxpayers and they may object to the sanctification of the Nativity Scene by the State.
BTW, I welcome counter-arguments/discussions such as yours having substance...
Make new discoveries and trash the old, one theory is obsolete but the new one is gold.
What?
The only difference between me and the usual conservative is that I concluded in 2002 that the likelyhood of any kind of God was zero. Allah, Vishnu, Jehovah, Ra, Odin, Ahura Mazda, and all the rest are creations of man’s imagination.
At one time we - mostly thanks to supernatural belief, earlier, and religion, later - thought the earth was the center of the universe and the Sun, planets and stars revolved around us.
We were wrong.
Science, unlike religion, allows for correction.
Never forget what the Catholic Church did to Galileo.
Because they don't buy into the magical mud theory? There is no God but life some how was able to sprout from some goo?
Simple little question here...why are the people "representing" these fine believers not pushing to have the symbols of their beliefs placed in the square rather than trying to tear down one predominant belief? Seems to me that would be the logical and tolerant thing to do.
'Course commies really don't want fairness or logic or tolerance...what they really want is to eliminate everyone's rights to believe what they want to believe, including those you suggested....why?...because all religious organizations are a threat to dictators.
First they came for the Christians, the evilgelicas and then Romans C's where not far behind follow by all the rest...
Guess you didn’t get it...I must just be so slow that I came in right under your radar.
And...that gives you the right to publicly tell all “Christians” that they suck rocks and slugs and small amphibians just exactly how?Doesn’t that make you a bit ...hmmmm ugly?
I made a bad assumption; I assumed that most people were aware that homosexual defenders several years ago tried to state that homosexuality was common in lower animals. Therefore, they could claim that homosexuaity was not unnatural.
I am not advocating that we can be like the higher non-human primates. Although we don’t eat our young, sometimes, some people kill them for some very sick reasons that would cause a gorilla to wonder who was actually the more intelligent.
Can't disagree with that. Did you hear about the woman who killed her ex-husband this week and then slaughter his four month old daughter...just 'cause.
It made me sick.
Good point, but again in all fairness, perhaps the other people with other religions may feel that a Nativitiy Scene is the only one allowed in the State Gov’t bldg and perhaps feel intimidated to demand equal time.
I’m not suggesting oppressing a nativity scene on STATE gov’t property, but it really does have the appearance of an ENDORSEMENT by the STATE.
So a fair way to reconcile this would be to have a sign that says:
“This is not an endorsement by the State of a particular religion... Other religious holiday displays are allowed, please inquire within...”
And of course, there probably wouldn’t be any other displays having the pazazzz of a true Christmas display anyway.
This is my last response to you, I am not agreeing with those militant atheists who placed those displays in the Washington State Capitol Building. And I don’t think it should be done. I don’t know what I wrote that made you think that I did agree. The coming struggle with Islam will make you forget about atheists anyway.
Oops, I did not mean that last post the way it reads. I mean it’s 1:00 am here and it’s time to call it a day.
“What a demented place - Seattle that is. What a bunch of hate filled creatures.”
Seattle is in King County.
In 1852 the County was named after William Rufus DeVane King.
In 1999, the King County council in Seattle “renamed”—or revised history in my opinion—King County after Martin Luther King and pasted profile silouettes of Dr. King on county stationary and vehicles.
It doesn't make any sense to me. The country was founded on freedom of religion or the freedom to not have a religion.
We started this country and created the rights we have because we didn't like religious dictators who killed our friends and neighbors and oppressed us for believing differently...not to eliminate religion but to keep one religion from being "the law in itself".
Christmas is a Federally recognized holiday. One can acknowledge it without endorsing it. What part of that do you not understand?
The only "magical dust" I can think of is from Genesis.
There is no God but life some how was able to sprout from some goo?
Goo? What "goo" are you talking about?
That's science!
Wow..it is late...and I’m not afraid of no Islamic extremeists taking over here. Night.
Well, I don't think they're militant. Just jerks.
I wouldn't have put the sign up, but that's me.
The coming struggle with Islam will make you forget about atheists anyway.
Ain't that the truth. lol. ;)
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