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Why the stories about Obama's birth certificate will never die
Salon ^ | 12/5/08 | Alex Kopppelman

Posted on 12/05/2008 9:52:12 AM PST by pissant

Dec. 5, 2008 | Barack Obama can't be president: He wasn't really born in Hawaii, and the certification of live birth his campaign released is a forgery. He was born in Kenya. Or maybe Indonesia. Or wait, maybe he was born in Hawaii -- but that doesn't matter, since he was also a British citizen at birth because of his father, and you can't be a "natural-born citizen" in that case. (But then, maybe his "father" wasn't really his father; maybe his real dad was an obscure Communist poet. Or Malcolm X.)

You might think these rumors would have died off after Obama produced proof in June that he was, in fact, born in Hawaii to an American citizen, his mother Ann, or after Hawaiian state officials confirmed in October that he was born there. You might think the rumors would have died off after was elected by a comfortable margin. Instead, they've intensified. There have been paid advertisements in the Chicago Tribune questioning the president-elect's birth certificate and eligibility, and one group is raising money to run a similar ad on television. The right-wing Web site WorldNetDaily has been reporting on the issue almost non-stop. Numerous plaintiffs have filed lawsuits in various states. And Friday, the Supreme Court's nine justices will decide whether they want to hear one of those suits, which also contends that John McCain, born in the former Panama Canal Zone, does not meet the Constitution's requirements to hold the presidency.

The people hoping this is a sign the court will agree with them and stop Obama from becoming president are almost certain to be let down. The fact that the case has gone to conference doesn't mean anything about its merits -- the court will also be

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; choomgang; larrysinclairslover; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile
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It is obviously very important to their cause to repeat this misinformation over and over again.

Yes. It's becoming clear there is something very wrong and they're desperate to cover it up.

21 posted on 12/05/2008 10:02:51 AM PST by proud American in Canada ("We can, and we will prevail.")
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To: trumandogz
In then end, Obama will say that if previous 42 men who have been president did not produce their birth certificate, that he will not produce his.

And Kerry will use the same rationale to refuse to sign the 180.

22 posted on 12/05/2008 10:03:55 AM PST by freespirited (Honk to indict the MSM for treason.)
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To: pissant
You might think these rumors would have died off after Obama produced proof in June that he was, in fact, born in Hawaii to an American citizen, his mother Ann, or after Hawaiian state officials confirmed in October that he was born there.

None of the above is true.

23 posted on 12/05/2008 10:04:37 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: LiberConservative

Its a dumblecrat congress...what are they going to do except say “move along...nothing to see here....”?


24 posted on 12/05/2008 10:07:30 AM PST by Adder (typical basicly decent bitter white person)
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To: icwhatudo

Perhaps an all-out effort by the Republicans to get the a majority in the Hawaii legislature in 2010....and pass a law that all birth certificates are open per view of any county judge who requests a view. This would really tear up the Obama legend.


25 posted on 12/05/2008 10:08:34 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: pissant
Both parties deprecated war; but one of them would make war rather than let the nation survive; and the other would accept war rather than let it perish. And the war came .... Fondly do we hope -- fervently do we pray -- that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away.

Abraham Lincoln--March 4, 1865
26 posted on 12/05/2008 10:09:07 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: pissant

This should be sooo simple that even a Dem could do it...just show your BC, Barack. That’s all there is to it.

The hard part is to show one that hasn’t been altered in any way.


27 posted on 12/05/2008 10:10:49 AM PST by whatshotandwhatsnot
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To: pissant
You might think these rumors would have died off after Obama produced proof in June that he was, in fact, born in Hawaii to an American citizen,

Why isn't the "proof" passing muster with the courts? If he HAS released his birth certificate, there would be nothing to obstruct.

Lies by omission are designed to bend the truth.

28 posted on 12/05/2008 10:11:00 AM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: Don Corleone

Donofrio’s contention is that Obama was born in Hawaii, but not a natural-born citizen and thus not eligible to become POTUS. Stop with the doubt about the place of Obama’s birth. We accept that Obama was born in Hawaii. Now how do you answer the question that Obama was a natural-born citizen if his father was a British subject at the time?


29 posted on 12/05/2008 10:11:52 AM PST by techno
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To: trumandogz
In then end, Obama will say that if previous 42 men who have been president did not produce their birth certificate, that he will not produce his.

I may not be asked to show my driver's license when I enter a bar in Texas but I'd better be prepared to show it per state law.

30 posted on 12/05/2008 10:12:24 AM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: pissant

HalliburtonHalliburtonHalliburtonHalliburton
BushisstupidBushisstupidBushisstupid
BloodforoilBloodforoilBloodforoil
BushstoleFloridaBushstoleFloridaBushstoleFlorida

I think we deserve a couple of memes that we can drag through the Obama presidency.


31 posted on 12/05/2008 10:13:07 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (Do not read this tagline.)
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To: SlowBoat407

The left deserves to have their president treated with the same respect that they showed.


32 posted on 12/05/2008 10:14:19 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: techno

We accept that Obama was born in Hawaii
***Who’s “we”?


33 posted on 12/05/2008 10:15:12 AM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: MrB

34 posted on 12/05/2008 10:16:25 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: pissant

Any word on how the vigil at the SCOTUS is going? Are you in touch with Freepers Beckwith and RaginApache? Thanks!


35 posted on 12/05/2008 10:17:19 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: icwhatudo
Someone should offer Slate a million dollars to provide such a quote from Hawaiian officials saying he was born there. I am trying so hard to stay off this birth certificate issue...but these constant lies are pulling me in.

Come on, jump in with both feet. There may be little chance of removing him but he's obviously hiding something big and the media is trying its best to cover for him. He deserves a big scandal to taint his illegitimate presidency.

36 posted on 12/05/2008 10:17:36 AM PST by TheThinker (It is the natural tendency of government to gravitate towards tyranny.)
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To: cripplecreek
Cowardice also drives those so-called conservatives here on FR who think we should just let this issue slide because they're afraid of riots.
37 posted on 12/05/2008 10:17:57 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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To: seekthetruth

I’m not in touch with those guys. I’m also not confident about Donofrio’s contentions, similar to Judah Benjamin’s on Texas Darlin. I’m more confident in the COLB is a forgery angle and the need for him to produce a vault copy BC.


38 posted on 12/05/2008 10:22:15 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: weegee

Yes, there is a law in Texas that states that people must be 21 to purchase alcohol but there is no law that states that everyone who buys alcohol must show proof that they are of drinking age.

However, the Ledge will go into session next month and you are free to write your State Rep and ask him to propose such a law.

And you are also free to write Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson and ask her to propose a law that would require President-Elects to show their BC before they are sworn into office.

And you are free to write letters to Chief Justice Roberts and Justices Scalia. Thomas and Alito and chastise them for refusing the Donofrio case.


39 posted on 12/05/2008 10:25:45 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: pissant

“Demanding proof of natural born citizenship...is a REQUIREMENT for the damn office.”

That’s the whole problem, isn’t it? The COTUS states the qualifications but remains silent on what evidence is needed
and who certifies the qualifications and when and how.

I think the SCOTUS should clear this up now and set a precedent.


40 posted on 12/05/2008 10:26:18 AM PST by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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