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1 posted on 12/04/2008 1:37:22 PM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 12/04/2008 1:37:53 PM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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If life does not begin at conception, why was birth control invented?


3 posted on 12/04/2008 1:41:52 PM PST by llevrok (Feral Conservative)
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Uh...the sperm is alive. So is the ovum. It seems to me that life began before fertilization. Maybe it’s been a continuum since our first living ancestor—a virus perhaps—or maybe Adam.


4 posted on 12/04/2008 1:44:07 PM PST by Savage Beast ("Your grandchildren will live under communism." -Nikita Krushchev)
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"....They arbitrarily push forward the starting point to implantation or viability, or even birth and beyond, to accommodate their approval of abortifacient drugs and devices, in vitro fertilization (IVF) procedures, lethal embryo research (including embryonic stem-cell research), chemical and surgical abortion, and eugenic infanticide."

First, they are amoral and choose to make money off the ending of human life. Others must do this as a way to deny that the life they are ending is "human" not a puppy, kitty or even "tissue."

How else do they hope to keep the idea in people's heads (especially teens) that what they are doing is NOT ending life but "preventing unwanted pregnancies" and thus eliminating "difficult situations."

6 posted on 12/04/2008 1:46:09 PM PST by zerosix
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Read for later


9 posted on 12/04/2008 1:48:02 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Nihil utile nisi quod honestum - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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12 posted on 12/04/2008 1:52:30 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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At the beginning. Besides, the pro-aborts don’t care about when life begins as is shown in their advocacy of partial-birth abortion. They only care about when life ends, and it is whenever they say it ends according to them.


15 posted on 12/04/2008 1:54:41 PM PST by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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My life began as a twinkle in my daddy’s eye....

...at least that’s what mom told me.


16 posted on 12/04/2008 1:55:46 PM PST by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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The truth: Every embryo is a potential human being. Yet at least 50% of them, probably much more, depending on the age of the woman who produced the egg, are incompatible with growth beyond the 12th week of pregnancy. Most of that 50% who would not make it, don’t even make the implantation. Some make it a couple weeks, and a very few make it to 11 or 12 weeks.

We are talking about aneuploidy here, chromosomal abnormalities that will not allow growth to fetus stage. (We are not talking about other problems that would leave to viable kids but with disorders.) Many, many embryos are aneuploid to the point of never making it, even some that are formed by a young couple in their 20s. It is 95% due to the egg and not the sperm, because sperm “naturally select.” The bad ones don’t get to the egg.

But we do not know (without special testing that has only come into being commercially in 2008) which embryos are going to be viable. That’s the key. Each embryo MIGHT grow to be an 80-year-old one day.


29 posted on 12/04/2008 2:22:18 PM PST by Yaelle
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It’s not news to me but informing the willingly ignorant isn’t easy.


31 posted on 12/04/2008 2:30:47 PM PST by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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The answer is that human life began a long time ago and the cells in question are never not alive. There is no point in the process where there is an absence of life. The real question is when does the child become a distinct individual that is no longer a part of either parent.


33 posted on 12/04/2008 2:36:58 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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Life begins at the moment of contraception! ;)


35 posted on 12/04/2008 2:40:54 PM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed.... so how could it be Redistributed?)
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Ever noticed how so many people will respond to:
-a little girl that has fallen down an abandoned well in Texas
-some men trapped underground in a coal mine in Wext Virginia
-people trapped under collapsed bridges after an earthquake in California
and they will root for the victims; and gather their resources
and go to extroidinary means; because there is just a chance
it is a slim chance, but still, yet there is a chance
they those people just might possibly be alive;
and if we try, we might possibly be able to save them...
But in the case of “when does life begin”, is this a life or not?
Many will say well maybe life begins here, and maybe there,
but we just don’t know for sure.
These two ways of thinking seem so at odds with one another to me.
If there is a chance, even a slim chance
that the fertilized egg is a new life, why not then
go to extroidinary means to save it?


44 posted on 12/04/2008 3:11:00 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (abortion = murder)
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The zygote understanding (not the poster zygote) has been around FR for a long while!

You can spell it out in black and white and there will still be naysayers.

45 posted on 12/04/2008 3:23:09 PM PST by philman_36
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And tha tis why we need to protect it right from the beginning.


49 posted on 12/04/2008 3:47:18 PM PST by TBP
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Life begins at conception—NOT birth.
Birth is one day in the life of a person who is already nine months old.

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64 posted on 12/04/2008 5:17:33 PM PST by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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65 posted on 12/04/2008 5:18:52 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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66 posted on 12/04/2008 5:21:30 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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“When Does Human Life Begin”

Any kid who's ever bought a pack of rubbers knows when life begins. So does any girl who's ever worried about being five days late.

Of all phony issues, this one is the phoniest.

69 posted on 12/04/2008 5:32:21 PM PST by Jim Noble (I have read a fiery gospel, writ in burnished rows of steel)
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On this issue of human life beginning, I think that the Law of the Perversity of Nature is best applied. This law is best understood by example i.e. beforehand you cannot determine which side of the bread to butter. While, after the bread is buttered; it is easy to determine which side to butter, because it is buttered.

The beginning of a human life is indeterminable, but the ending of human life is obvious. One instant there is not human life and the next instant there is.

Until we have the technology to determine the instant before the instant after we may not intervene; in the intervening instant. Anything anyone does to purposefully intervene and end that human life is murder.

Note that instants are very very short.


107 posted on 12/04/2008 7:18:12 PM PST by Cyber Ninja (His legacy is a stain on the dress.)
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