Posted on 12/03/2008 11:43:31 PM PST by BP2
So far, I haven't seen a third category in COTUS or law distinguishing something called "natural born" citizen as opposed to simply born in the U.S.
“at one point in time, during my more productive years, foreign nationals becoming naturalized US citizens, were required to denounce their previous citizenship.”
That doesn’t apply to the case at hand. The issue concerns people with dual citizenship at birth. Under those circumstances, the U.S. government does not demand any denouncing.
I agree. But, if I was a betting man, I'd say that SCOTUS will not resolve this.
“One born on US soil is a US citizen.
One born on US soil of US citizen parents is a ‘natural born’ citizen.”
Where does it say that? Common sense tells me that if you are born a citizen, you are a natural born citizen.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2142619/posts?page=393#393
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Adding links in case anyone missed them.
Profound comments:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2142619/posts?page=86#86
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2142619/posts?page=100#100
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... and Barack Obama, Jr, was a British Citizen from his father at birth... it even says so on his website ...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2142619/posts?page=285#285
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From Leo's letter to ABC issued today:
The main argument of my law suit alleges that since Obama was a British citizen - at birth - a fact he admits is true, then he cannot be a natural born citizen. The word born has meaning. It deals with the status of a presidential candidate at birth. Obama had dual nationality at birth. The status of the candidate at the time of the election is not as relevant to the provisions of the Constitution as is his status at birth. If one is not born a natural born citizen, he can never be a natural born citizen.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2142619/posts?page=294#294
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Important comment, too long to repeat:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2142619/posts?page=294#294
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Important comment:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2142619/posts?page=324#324
Holding more than one passport is perfectly legal and does not threaten one's status as an American citizen. I hold three.
I think Keyes has the best case. Leo’s I have far less confidence in.
“If my children cannont aspire to the presidency as their father can, then my children are second-class citizens.”
I reject the notion that denying children one little, tiny opportunity makes them second class citizens. Of course, any law that defines people different divides people into different classes, in a technical sense. For instance, marriage law makes married people a seperate class from single people. Children are a seperate class from adults.
It is so unlikely that any particular child will ever be elected president that restricting them from doing so almost certainly won’t make a difference in their lives.
So far, I haven't seen a third category in COTUS or law distinguishing something called "natural born" citizen as opposed to simply born in the U.S.
So far, I haven't seen a third category in COTUS or law distinguishing something called "natural born" citizen as opposed to simply born in the U.S.
This hospital verification thing seems more to the point than this seemingly invented distinction between “born in the U.S” and “natural-born citizen”.
My wife just walked into the room as I got to the photo, now she said she knows why I spend so much time on Freerepublic...
I had to do some ‘splainin!!!!!
So far, I haven't seen a third category in COTUS or law distinguishing something called "natural born" citizen as opposed to simply born in the U.S.
If the supremes won’t uphold the const. then a lot of military guys will be sure to ask out of their oaths, why should they uphold any more than the supremes do.
**DONOFRIO IS SAYING OBAMA CANNOT BE A “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN,” BECAUSE HIS FATHER WAS A BRITISH CITIZEN AT THE TIME OF OBAMA’S BIRTH.**
Finally we are getting down to brass tacks.
God bless Justice Thomas!
Actually, he states that in arguendo as a best case scenario for Obama and a worst case scenario for his cause.
The fact is that none of us are sure, at this point in time, where Obama was born. If he were born in Hawaii, then it would be correct to say he had dual nationality at birth. However, if he were born in Kenya, he would have British nationality at birth but not American nationality at birth.
Leo stated in the article, ‘For argument sake, I will assume Mister Obama was born in Hawai’i.’ If BArry Soetoro was actually born in Kenya, he would be ONLY a British subject at birth since his mother had not reached the magic five yeasr past fourteen.
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