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Lost city of 'cloud people' found in Peru
The Telegraph ^ | 12/3/2008 | Jeremy McDermott

Posted on 12/03/2008 4:58:17 PM PST by bruinbirdman

Archaeologists have discovered a lost city carved into the Andes Mountains by the mysterious Chachapoya tribe.

The settlement covers some 12 acres and is perched on a mountainside in the remote Jamalca district of Utcubamba province in the northern jungles of Peru's Amazon.


Buildings carved into the Pachallama peak mountainside in Peru, by Chachapoya

The buildings found on the Pachallama peak are in remarkably good condition, estimated to be over 1,000 years old and comprised of the traditional round stone houses built by the Chachapoya, the 'Cloud Forest People'.

The area is completely overgrown with the jungle now covering much of the settlement but explorers found the walls of the buildings and rock paintings on a cliff face.

The remote nature of the site appears to have protected the site from looters as archaeologists found ceramics and undisturbed burial sites.

Archaeologist Benedicto Pérez Goicochea said: "The citadel is perched on the edge of an abyss.

"We suspect that the ancient inhabitants used this as a lookout point from where they could spot potential enemies."

The ruins were initially discovered by local people hacking through the jungle. They were drawn to the place due to the sound of a waterfall.

The local people "armed with machetes opened a path that arrived at the place where they saw a beautiful panorama, full of flowers and fauna, as well as a waterfall, some 500 metres high," said the mayor of Jamalca, Ricardo Cabrera Bravo.

Initial studies have found similarities between the new discovery and the Cloud Peoples' super fortress of Kulep, also in Utcubamba province, which is older and more extensive that the Inca Citadel of Machu Picchu, but has not been fully explored or restored.

Little is known about the Chachapoya, except that they had been

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
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To: bruinbirdman
I love this stuff... real, live version of


21 posted on 12/03/2008 6:39:38 PM PST by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: Trajan88

Cloud People

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22 posted on 12/03/2008 6:46:02 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: bruinbirdman
the remote Jamalca district of Utcubamba

Apparently their society ran out of vowels.

23 posted on 12/03/2008 6:52:36 PM PST by ikka (Brother, you asked for it!)
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To: bruinbirdman

24 posted on 12/03/2008 7:00:03 PM PST by timestax ( CNNLIES)
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To: bruinbirdman
Kuelap - The Machu Picchu Of Northern Peru (Chachapoyas - White, Blonde Haired People)

The mysterious super fortress of the Chachapoyan Cloud People

25 posted on 12/03/2008 7:02:19 PM PST by blam
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To: tarheelswamprat
Look, if you can't post a pic of Droxine, just don't post anything /g

"By your command", lol
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AND for a true "isn't that weird" moment, note that Droxine's actual name is 'Diana Ewing', and while she probably isn't any relation to the infamous J.R. Ewing of 'Dallas', I'm willing to bet you probably didn't know that ol' J.R. got it on with noneother than the future Captain Katherine Janeway (Kate Mulgrew), now did you?

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26 posted on 12/03/2008 7:26:17 PM PST by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history. 0bama is his 2nd term.)
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To: muawiyah

Do they know that from decoration on the bowl, or from residue inside it? I didn’t know that psilocybin mushrooms grew in the Andes region (of course, I don’t really know that much about them at all, just thought they were from North America).


27 posted on 12/03/2008 7:46:40 PM PST by Pablo64 (Political Correctness is a DISEASE. <==> TRUTH is the CURE.)
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28 posted on 12/04/2008 9:40:01 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: ikka; SunkenCiv
Apparently their society ran out of vowels.

Just be glad it wasn't...


29 posted on 12/04/2008 11:28:29 AM PST by uglybiker (1f u c4n r34d th1s u r34lly n33d 2 g3t l41d)
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To: Pablo64
There are something like 385 different psychoactive plants, mushrooms and animals in the Americas. The Old World, less Australia, is not as well endowed.

However, the vessel in Indianapolis was clearly marked with everything you'd need to know about Amanita Muscaria (which is "psychoactive" if and only if it's grown in Northern Eur-Asia, or high in the Himalayas.

Yup, we thought it was strange to find something like that being manufactured WAYBACK before Europeans were known to visit South America.

30 posted on 12/04/2008 12:10:17 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Pablo64

“Very interesting. They look similar to the cliff dwellings at Mesa Verde in SW Colorado.”

I was thinking the same thing, but how it looked similar to Montezuma’s castle, or the cliff dwellings in Canyon de Chelly in Arizona.


31 posted on 12/04/2008 12:31:10 PM PST by Towed_Jumper (Stephen Hopkins: Founding Father who had Cerebral Palsy.."My hand trembles, my heart does not.")
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To: timestax
Just what we need....

Flying hippies.

32 posted on 12/04/2008 12:44:13 PM PST by uglybiker (1f u c4n r34d th1s u r34lly n33d 2 g3t l41d)
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To: SunkenCiv; blam
REALM OF THE CLOUD PEOPLE.

While some Chachapoya elite were buried in standing clay and grass effigies, as at Karijia, others were entombed in chullpas, brightly painted cliffside tombs, such as those found at the site of Revash. Painted in shades of red and cream, many of the chullpas have gabled roofs and are embellished with cross-shaped niches. Local farmers call the red markings and targetlike circles ojos, or eyes--ancestors keeping tabs on the living.

On a cliff ledge overlooking the vast Utcubamba Valley I spot five-foot-tall anthropomorphic sarcophagi of six ancient Chachapoya, gazing at the rising sun, as if the dead were watching over the living. The capsulelike coffins, made of clay and grass, and built into the cliff face between A.D. 1100 and 1300, are shielded from the rain by overhanging rock. Within them are mummy bundles holding the remains of Chachapoya elite. To reach the cliff heights, the Chachapoya may have used natural ledges, which were destroyed when they withdrew. Scholars believe a stone wall was erected around each mummy bundle. Cane poles were inserted into the walls, sort of teepee-style, and the capsules were built up and then painted. The effigies were finally "dressed" in feathered tunics and adorned with necklaces and trophy heads. The skulls may have been part of the decoration. The site is called Karijia, after a canyon below; the sarcophagi are known to locals as "ancient wise men."

It may not be Machu Picchu, but the Kuelap citadel, the largest Chachapoya fortress-city by far, is an impressive place built more than 1,000 years ago. Protected on one side by a sheer drop, it stands at an elevation of 9,500 feet and is surrounded by a dense forest. A 65-foot wall of pale yellow stones surrounds some 420 houses and ceremonial structures, many of them still buried under trees and vegetation that include colorful bromeliads and orchids. Three funnel-like entrances further protected the site from intruders. Many of the walls within the 15-acre fortress display friezes that may be stylized eyes of a puma, one of the Chachapoya's four animal deities. With some 3,500 inhabitants at its height, Kuelap (the name suggests a fortified settlement) was a big town for its time. While it was known to the Spanish, who collected tribute from the people who lived there, the first archaeological investigation of the site was carried out by an Italian, Antonio Raimondi, in 1860.

Utcubamba Valley

33 posted on 12/04/2008 3:02:44 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: muawiyah

Interesting. So it was the markings on the vessel that told the story. Looks like they were smart enough to “label” their stash so it wouldn’t get mistaken for something else. ;-)


34 posted on 12/04/2008 5:26:34 PM PST by Pablo64 (Political Correctness is a DISEASE. <==> TRUTH is the CURE.)
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To: Pablo64
You'd better believe it. Nothing like cooking up some great corn/squash/bean porridge and tossing in some amanita muscaria.

You be upchucking a long time Fur Shur.

35 posted on 12/04/2008 5:33:33 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Fred Nerks

The sarcophagi statuary looks remarkably Viking ~ see:
http://viking-nevo.narod.ru/images/games/skiing-vikings.gif


36 posted on 12/04/2008 5:54:39 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks!


37 posted on 12/04/2008 6:11:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: uglybiker

Whew!


38 posted on 12/04/2008 6:38:32 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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