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Regarding the Supremes and Obama, What do you think? (vanity)

Posted on 12/03/2008 4:16:39 PM PST by dascallie

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1 posted on 12/03/2008 4:16:39 PM PST by dascallie
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Won’t their deliberation be over who has standing to file such a suit, rather than the merits of the case itself?

“lack of standing” is what has stonewalled every petitioner to date

Will they expand upon who or what has the “standing” to demand the verification of the credentials of a candidate for the US presidency?


2 posted on 12/03/2008 4:19:08 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: dascallie

For the umpteenth time, what is the difference between a certificate of live birth and a birth certificate?


3 posted on 12/03/2008 4:19:26 PM PST by madameguinot (The USA is still the greatest nation on Earth.)
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To: dascallie

The Vote will be 0 to 9 and without comment.

This case will not move forward.


4 posted on 12/03/2008 4:19:58 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: dascallie

It isn’t a question of avoiding trouble for SC Justices, or taking the easy out. There’s gonna be trouble either way. I’d think having the Constitution backing up your action would be the deciding factor. But that’s just me.


5 posted on 12/03/2008 4:21:25 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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To: dascallie

If the Supreme Court does NOT step up to getting to the truth on this matter — then the next presential term will be DOGGED by this issue and the question will eventually render the Office of the President as inoperative.

This not NOT going away.


6 posted on 12/03/2008 4:21:49 PM PST by i_dont_chat
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To: trumandogz

Yes and I feel the unwritten subtext will be the rationale I put forward...but NEVER admitted to in 1000 years.

The Beauty of technicality to hide all warts.


7 posted on 12/03/2008 4:21:51 PM PST by dascallie
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The Supremes decide what the Constitution means no matter what it says (Thank you John Adams, who packed the federal courts after his loss to Jefferson and appointed Marbury of Marbury v. Madison giving the Supremes this omnipotence. Adams, our first liberal President and the damage he did is still felt today.)

All of this, however, comports with human nature which has prevented Republics from lasting much longer than we have. More's the pity.

We live in interesting times.

8 posted on 12/03/2008 4:22:32 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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I except Justices Souter and Ross to vote against scheduling hearings.

As to that b**ch Florence, I dunno...

9 posted on 12/03/2008 4:23:11 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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So, then you must believe that Robers, Scalia, Thomas and Alito will choose not to uphold the Constitution?


10 posted on 12/03/2008 4:23:59 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: gorush

If Obama were a citizen, why was he travelling under a foreign passport during and after his college years???


11 posted on 12/03/2008 4:25:30 PM PST by Invictus (Get used to living in the USSA (ununited socialist states of america))
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To: dascallie

I think they need to remember that the US constitution is the supreme law of the land and overrules even the voters.


12 posted on 12/03/2008 4:25:36 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: trumandogz
"The Vote will be 0 to 9 and without comment."

I'm hoping for howls of derisive laughter.

13 posted on 12/03/2008 4:26:13 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: trumandogz

Regardless of what you think about Donofrio’s contended meaning of “natural born citizen,” his suit has several layers, one of which most certainly is a valid and pressing concern: the New Jersey Secretary Of State is tasked with certifying the eligibility of candidates, and in fact failed to do so, in allowing Roger Calero on the ballot.

So, I’m not clear on the source of your certainty, as far as your take on the possible disposition of the matter.


14 posted on 12/03/2008 4:26:28 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: trumandogz

“The Vote will be 0 to 9 and without comment.

This case will not move forward”.

...this is due ENTIRELY to the fact that the American people are stupid and blind to the Constitution and what it represents. Race riots, civil war, god knows what will happen because a majority don’t get the implications, dishonesty and crises that will arise. We will have a non-President. We will have NO legitimate leadership. Other countries know this. Treaties, laws, anything signed by BO will be worthless.


15 posted on 12/03/2008 4:26:39 PM PST by albie
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To: madameguinot

>For the umpteenth time, what is the difference between a certificate of live birth and a birth certificate?

The Birth Certificate holds all of the data, like time/date, doctor delivering, etc... the Certificate of Live Birth is a “simplified” version whose data comes from the Birth Certificate and it basically says that he wasn’t stillborn.

Now, the interesting thing is that the Certification of Live Birth is not a “valid enough” document for most things like: getting a passport, drivers license, security clearance, registering/joining exclusive hereditary societies like “Descendants of the Mayflower”.


16 posted on 12/03/2008 4:26:39 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: dascallie
It is really not that disastrous if they disqualify O. The electors have been selected from each state and they select a qualified president. Since most the electors are Demonrats, they will select Hillary.
17 posted on 12/03/2008 4:26:52 PM PST by D Rider
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To: Invictus

Using logic is meaningless...the Supremes decide.


18 posted on 12/03/2008 4:27:14 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: trumandogz

I would love to believe they will.

I am saying —out of sheer workman-like pragmatism in avoiding the firestorm and probable civil unrest, they will vote to not open the suit—not that this would ever be their stated rationale EVER—it would be based on ‘lack of standing’ again.

NOW, Alan Keyes can probably argue that he was personally damaged by Obama’s duplicity...so will watch that case.


19 posted on 12/03/2008 4:27:15 PM PST by dascallie
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To: madameguinot
In Hawaii there is a Certificate Of Live Birth and Certification Of Live Birth. One says Joe Shmoe was born in Hawaii on such and such a day, and can be given to someone whether they were actually born there or not. The other lists the city, date, time and HOSPITAL, and I believe maybe the attending physician.

One is more formal, and informative than the other. This is what Obama has sealed, and refuses to produce for $10, but fights for $500,000-$800,000.

20 posted on 12/03/2008 4:27:48 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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