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Hawaiian Patriots Contact Hospitals: Obama & Mom Never There
Stop the ACLU ^ | 3 Dec 08 | Maggie Thornton

Posted on 12/03/2008 12:04:08 PM PST by Jay777

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To: Jay777
It isn’t illegal for hospitals to state the fact that someone was NOT born there.
Nope, they can't confirm either way under HIPAA.

Can’t the Freedom of Information Act help in these matters?
Exception 6 of FOIA states that private records, such as medical records, are not covered under FOIA.

41 posted on 12/03/2008 12:24:01 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Jay777

“Hospitals you can check yourself”

Like you can just start calling these hospitals and find somebody who is willing to give definitive and verifiable information that’s illegal for them to give out to begin with.

Sort of stretches the bounds of credibility just a tad.


42 posted on 12/03/2008 12:24:10 PM PST by gracesdad
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To: Yo-Yo

Then why does the hospital where my sons were born have their names on the wall?


43 posted on 12/03/2008 12:24:45 PM PST by JoeA (JoeA / welcome to third world politics)
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To: Nea Wood

“I think the hospital where Bush was born would at least admit he was born there, if asked.”

Do you also think I could call up hospitals wherever you live and find out if you’ve had heart surgery or been treated for an STD? I sure hope I can’t.


44 posted on 12/03/2008 12:26:09 PM PST by gracesdad
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To: Yo-Yo
HIPAA rules prevent hospitals from even acknowleding if a person is or was ever a patient

TRUE and if these "bribed" employees are caught, they will be summarily fired.

45 posted on 12/03/2008 12:27:52 PM PST by hankbrown
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To: WayneS
Barry O. was born in the back of a TAXI on the island of Oahu! A minor detail, easy to forget...

You got it backwards. That's where he was conceived.

46 posted on 12/03/2008 12:28:06 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Nea Wood

Not if it was a violation of state law to do so, as in the case of Hawaii.


47 posted on 12/03/2008 12:29:10 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: JoeA

And why do hospitals submit births and deaths to the county vital statistics who then print them in the newspaper?


48 posted on 12/03/2008 12:30:27 PM PST by txhurl (somebody just bought 12 Carrier Battle Groups for 600 million dollars)
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To: JoeA
Then why does the hospital where my sons were born have their names on the wall?

HIPAA allows release of the information if the patient has signed an authorization form permitting release. That is why if you call a hospital and ask for the condition of a patient by name, you can get the condition if the patient has allowed himslef/herself to be listed in the directory. Family members are also permitted access to patient information.

49 posted on 12/03/2008 12:30:49 PM PST by hankbrown
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To: txflake
And why do hospitals submit births and deaths to the county vital statistics who then print them in the newspaper?

HIPAA allows release of information to vital statistics departments of government. The newspaper information is only there if the patient consents and authorizes it to be there.

50 posted on 12/03/2008 12:32:20 PM PST by hankbrown
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To: txflake

County vital records are fellow government agencies which they are allowed to share with. For publication in papers, a release has to be signed by the family. We recently went through this with a grandparent loss, it was part of the hospital paperwork, just a little place to add an initial that we release this information.


51 posted on 12/03/2008 12:32:32 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Jay777; Nea Wood; Yo-Yo

Even without HIPAA, I would think it might be difficult for a large hospital to determine who was a patient there 47 years ago. How often are they going to need such old records? I had a problem with a hospital throwing away some records from 7 years ago.


52 posted on 12/03/2008 12:32:38 PM PST by wideminded
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To: Jay777
Wouldn't they check if he wasn't a natural born before they proceeded to run for president? "No, heh, but it's touching. Forget the myths the media's created. The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand."
53 posted on 12/03/2008 12:33:54 PM PST by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
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To: WayneS; Dan(9698)

“Does he actually claim to have been born at a hospital that wasn’t built until after he was born?”

My brief look told me that one hospital started in 1856 and the other in 1890. Both went under different names at the time of course.

Now when did Obama say he was born?


54 posted on 12/03/2008 12:34:09 PM PST by gracesdad
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To: Jay777

Cancer Institute of Maui — Hmmmm would he qualify as a tumor? You know what a blight liberals think babies are.


55 posted on 12/03/2008 12:34:22 PM PST by nclaurel
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To: JoeA

Because you paid for a plaque in their honor?

Please elaborate, because at our hospital they can’t even have the names of the babies visable while in the nursery.

Some hospitals have even blocked off the windows to the nursery so passers by can no longer stare at the babies.


56 posted on 12/03/2008 12:37:48 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: buccaneer81

Well, it could be BOTH!

;^)


57 posted on 12/03/2008 12:39:36 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Dan(9698)
...They were built after he was born, so no records back that far....

Not true. Queen's was founded in 1859 and Kapi'olani in 1890.

58 posted on 12/03/2008 12:40:31 PM PST by FReepaholic (Diversity = .45 .357 .223 .38 ...)
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To: gracesdad
Do you also think I could call up hospitals wherever you live and find out if you’ve had heart surgery or been treated for an STD? I sure hope I can’t.

Me, no. But since Bush has nothing to hide, he's already stated the name of the hospital where he was born, and a simple Google search would probably reveal it. So, if someone were to call that hospital and ask them whether Bush was born there, they might say, "Yes, that's already a well-known fact," or "We don't have records from that long ago," or "We can't release that information." But would they say, "No, Barbara Bush was never a patient here and Bush was not born here"?

My understanding is, the hospital where Obama claims to be born is saying that his mother was never a patient there...not, "We can't release that information."

59 posted on 12/03/2008 12:42:23 PM PST by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: JoeA

“Then why does the hospital where my sons were born have their names on the wall?”

One of the local hospitals here posts “recent deliveries” on a huge LED billboard.

Then there are those pesky birth announcements in the local paper.


60 posted on 12/03/2008 12:45:06 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper
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