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Stealth Jihad (Robert Spencer says "End Muslim immigration into the United States")
Frontpage ^ | 12/2/2008 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 12/02/2008 7:40:33 PM PST by GOPGuide

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FP: How do we stop the stealth jihadists?

Spencer:

Enforce existing laws.

Section 2385 of the federal criminal code states that “whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government…shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.”

If this already existing law – revised as of January 2, 2006 -- were enforced against Islamic groups in the United States, the stealth jihad could be stopped in its tracks.

Reclassify Muslim organizations.

Any Muslim group in America that does not explicitly renounce, in transparent and manifest deed as well as word, any intention now or in the future to replace the Constitution of the United States with Islamic Sharia should be classified as a political rather than a religious organization, and should be subject to all the responsibilities and standards, which political organizations must adhere. Or it should be closed. Likewise, mosques and Islamic schools should be closely monitored, and any that preach Islamic supremacism in the United States summarily closed.

End Muslim immigration into the United States, as a simple matter of national security.

Immigration policy must work toward the integration of all immigrants, but the all-encompassing societal program of Sharia makes integration of pious, serious, informed Muslims ultimately impossible. While there is no doubt that there are many millions of Muslims who have no interest in jihad either by violence or stealth, no Islamic authorities anywhere in the world have declared heretical or in any way unacceptable the idea that unbelievers must be fought against by various means and subjugated under the rule of Islamic law. Unless and until that begins to happen, no one can be sure of the sentiments of any individual believer. Consequently, simply to protect ourselves, there should be an end to Muslim immigration, combined with a clear notice to Muslims in the United States that any action on behalf of Sharia supremacism is unacceptable.

In today’s political climate, of course, such a measure is impossible. It will be denounced as “racism,” despite the fact that Islamic jihad supremacism is not a race. But at very least, immigration officials should adopt a program to screen Muslims entering the United States for jihadist sentiments. This will provide grounds for deportation if an entrant renounces some aspect of Sharia supremacism on his immigration application and then works for it once in the country.

Take pride in our own culture.

Reject the revisionism and self-hatred that dominates the textbook view of American history and Western civilization today, and recognize that Western culture and civilization are threatened in many, many particulars that we take for granted, and that they are worth defending. American citizens should stop spending so little time on the history of their own country, and on the civilization of the Western world, and so much more on a mishmash of practically everything -- which, in the case of Islam, also has become (as we have seen) a carefully-devised method to impart misinformation on the part of those who calculatedly employ the rhetoric of inclusion and multiculturalism to attain for themselves the right of final edit, as it were, of discussion of Islam in American history textbooks. We must re-learn our own history, and to take pride in much of it, and to revere, not find new ways to deride, those who built the political and legal institutions of this country, with its unrivalled freedoms and solicitude for the individual.

FP: Robert Spencer, thank you for joining Frontpage Interview.

Spencer: Thank you Jamie.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; jihad; jihadinamerica; mohammedanism; mohammedanism122008; muslim; robertspencer; spencer; stealthjihad
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To: MadIsh32; GOPGuide

Name anyIslamic country where a Muslim can convert fromIslam to any other religion LEGALLY? Can you name any?


41 posted on 12/03/2008 5:53:22 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: MadIsh32
Pakistan, for all practical purposes HAS Sharia law. This was also installed in Baluchistan and the NWFP. Punjab and Sindh are less believing, but they would follow. In Pakistan, you have a blasphemy law that has been used to kill Christians under false pretexts (since also, the word of a Christian is not worth the same as that of a M in Pakistan).

Would you appreciate it if the same happened to you in the US, in reverse? Where tomorrow when you say "Christ!" you be accused of blasphemy and have your hand chopped off or be beheaded?
42 posted on 12/03/2008 6:00:53 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: GOPGuide; All

Thanks for posting. Very interesting thread. Thanks Robert Spencer. BTTT!


43 posted on 12/03/2008 7:01:36 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Cronos

Islam is totally incompatible with Western civilization. Inviting them is only asking for trouble.


44 posted on 12/03/2008 2:47:03 PM PST by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide; MadIsh32
You're wrong. The right sentence is "Islam is totally incompatible with Western civilization".

Name ONE civilisation where Iz and Moos live peacefully? with the Hindus in India and Pakistan? No (the Paki Hindus are slowly being exterminated, just two years ago 2 temples were bulldozed in Lahore and no one said a word). With the Buddhists in Thailand or Afghanistan or Central Asia? No (The Buddhists in Central Asia were exterminated nearly a century or more ago). With non-Western Christians in the Phillipines or the Moluccas in Indonesia or in Nigeria or in Ethiopia or in the Sudan? No. With Parsis in Iran? Nope, all exterminated.
45 posted on 12/04/2008 12:57:09 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: MadIsh32

As has been pointed out Sharia law is far more widespread than you are suggesting.

In addition the idea that poverty has anything to do with terrorism is a flat out lie. Africa is one of the poorest regions of the world, and yet we see little international terrorism from them. The far more wealthy middle east is the epicentre of terror. The terrorists themselves are usually middle class or very wealthy. Osama Bin Ladin was a millionaire not a poor Afghan goat herder.

The UAE was the center of the financing of the 911 attack, and Saudi Arabia, NOT Banglasdesh, was the recruiting ground for most of the attackers. Consistently the terrorists come the well-to-do, not the poor and downtrodden.

Yasir Arafat said he “visited a lot of places on vacations” as a tourist. “I was once very rich,” he said. “I used to go to Europe. I visited Greece, Italy, France, Switzerland, Austria.”

In addition, he said, “I had a pocketful of money, like any tourist, and I enjoyed myself. I was well on the way to being a millionaire,” Mr. Arafat said, but “I gave all my wealth to the revolution.”

Mohammed Atta studied architecture and he received his degree from Cairo University in 1990. Atta went on to study urban planning at a technical university in Hamburg. Later, he piloted the first plane that hit the twin towers on Sept. 11. Atta’s family owned a posh beach-front property in Egypt, and his two older sisters are a university lecturer and a doctor. His father was a lawyer.


46 posted on 12/04/2008 1:26:13 AM PST by Sharrukin
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To: Sharrukin

As has been pointed out by someone who has traveled throughout the ME, that point is incorrect on Sharia being widespread. It is in fact simply nonsense

Your second point is correct though. Terrorists do exist in all classes in the middle east, from the ignorant poor who can be talked into suicide bombings, to some rich fool who feels that if he commits “martydom” he will wipe away the sins of drinking alcohol and having pre marital sex with blonde women while studying in Europe


47 posted on 12/04/2008 6:43:06 AM PST by MadIsh32 (The token Muslim :))
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