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Constitution? What Constitution?
News Blaze ^ | December 1, 2008 | Colonel Bob Pappas, USMC, Retired

Posted on 12/01/2008 1:00:37 PM PST by Red Steel

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1 posted on 12/01/2008 1:00:37 PM PST by Red Steel
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2 posted on 12/01/2008 1:04:18 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Diogenesis

That would be funny if it weren’t so close to the truth.

Coming soon: A New Constitutional Convention


3 posted on 12/01/2008 1:13:30 PM PST by griswold3
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To: Red Steel

I will always hum The Obama Anthem as provided by Glenn Beck, whenever I am forced against my will to give any respect to The One (piss be upon him).


4 posted on 12/01/2008 1:15:00 PM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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Bow down and praise The One
Give him your money and your guns
Give us a country to make your wife proud!
Lord Barry heal the bitter ones
White and clinging to faith and our guns
Hope for the change of the hope of the change!


5 posted on 12/01/2008 1:17:26 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (Do not read this tagline.)
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To: Red Steel
What I quoted was evidently written in an Arizona newspaper as a bit of satire and I got sucked in. I was wrong and apologize to Obama (not that he will ever see this) and my readers for failing to be more diligent.

I haven't heard any apologies to Sarah Palin for "I can see Russia from my house!".

I don't expect to, either.

6 posted on 12/01/2008 1:18:51 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (Do not read this tagline.)
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To: griswold3

>>Coming soon: A New Constitutional Convention

Coming sooner: Second War Between The States.


7 posted on 12/01/2008 1:21:35 PM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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To: Red Steel

Remember, The Obamunist is on record saying he found the U.S. Constitution to be fundamentally flawed.


8 posted on 12/01/2008 1:22:58 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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“Coming sooner: Second War Between The States.”

Unfortunately, I fear it may very well come to that.


9 posted on 12/01/2008 1:24:43 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: griswold3
The term "constitutional convention" is not quite correct. The Constitution refers to "A Convention for Proposing Amendments...as Part of This Constitution".

There is a difference. Read the essay for details.

10 posted on 12/01/2008 1:32:05 PM PST by Publius
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I hear that sentiment thrown around a bit on FR but has anyone really considered the ramifications of such an event? Picture the Bosnia mess. Picture EVERYTHING as you know it coming to an end. You don’t just take up arms against the State and then go back to work on Monday. I for one am very nervous about the potential for such a thing. Let’s pray that we are being overly pessimistic about The One. That is something to HOPE for....


11 posted on 12/01/2008 1:34:49 PM PST by Honor above all (I'm only here to help.)
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No, it will not be a second War Between the States. The proper comparison is 1649, not 1861. Back then, the question was, "Do you support England's King Charles, king by Divine Right, head of the Established Church? Or do you support Parliament and the rights of the Commons under the Magna Carta?"

In modern terms, it would read, "Do you support the President, the Congress and the people, who have spoken and decided by an election? Or do you support the Supreme Court and the Constitution?"

I'll quote something Dennis Miller said in 1998, before he changed sides. "The Constitution is something a bunch of farmers scribbled on the back of a cocktail napkin. Who the hell cares what it says?"

12 posted on 12/01/2008 1:37:58 PM PST by Publius
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WE understand all that.
But to ‘change’ our founding documents, the opposition needs to scrap the whole thing and start over.
That’s why they are calling for a ‘Constitutional Convention’...for a NEW document.

Will report further, I am taking a class on the subject,”Does the US need a new Constitution?” You’d be surprised that some in the class DO think it’s time to scrap the old one to be ‘progressive’...


13 posted on 12/01/2008 1:38:33 PM PST by griswold3
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To start over with a new constitution, they would first have to amend Article V to allow it.


14 posted on 12/01/2008 1:40:07 PM PST by Publius
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To: Red Steel

btt


15 posted on 12/01/2008 1:44:59 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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Obama is a lawless type of person, they don’t have to change the document, just keep disregarding it. If there are no consequences - he doesn’t have to show his original long form birth certificate, he can nominate a sitting Senator for a Cabinet post - to his actions, no one holds him accountable, then he doesn’t have to expend energy to change the document at all. He’ll just sidestep it and his stupid Obamabots won’t say a word.


16 posted on 12/01/2008 1:58:14 PM PST by deannadurbin
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We’ll all never agree on key points, namely, where does individual responsiblity end and social (government) responsibility begin. This is crucial to defining a new social pact, and I know I will never agree with the “liberal/leftist” view which reduces the individual to a resource/thing/number/member-of-a-group.


17 posted on 12/01/2008 2:00:12 PM PST by Clock King (Radical Conservatives, arise!)
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To: Diogenesis
And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all.

Not to mention puting your life between your "lov'd homes and the war's desolation". Then there is that part about "Their blood has wash'd out their foul footsteps' pollution. No refuge could save the hireling and slave From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave:"

I know he didn't say it, but he could have. The not often sung 3rd and 4th stanzas are very un PC these days.

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wash'd out their foul footsteps' pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

O, thus be it ever when freemen shall stand,
Between their lov'd homes and the war's desolation;
Blest with vict'ry and peace, may the heav'n-rescued land
Praise the Pow'r that hath made and preserv'd us a nation!
Then conquer we must, when our cause is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust"
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

18 posted on 12/01/2008 2:00:46 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Publius
There is a difference. Read the essay for details.

Yes there is, but the first Constitutional Convention was originally called to amend the Articles of Confederation. Instead they created a whole new, and much more powerful, government.

That's so 18th century though. Today they just ignore the old rag and do what they can get away with.

19 posted on 12/01/2008 2:03:18 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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“And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message.”

Has this brilliant, sophisticated, cultured Haahvaahd gentleman ever read the text of the FRENCH national anthem?;)


20 posted on 12/01/2008 2:08:54 PM PST by Frank_2001
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