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He's Not Black
WAPOOPED ^ | 11-30-08 | Marie Arana

Posted on 11/30/2008 4:21:44 AM PST by Nick Thimmesch

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To: Star Traveler

Gay marraige and abortion are perfect examples of states rights over federal laws.


61 posted on 11/30/2008 6:53:40 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: seemoAR

What ports did the slave ships use?

The biggest and nearest. Time was of the essence in slave trading. Money was the second most important factor.


Who made money when a slave was sold to a Southerner?

The auctioneer, the ship owner and/or ship’s captain.


Why was slavery OK until the South started exporting cotton to England because of the low prices the Northern textile mills were willing to pay?

It’s not and never was OK (at least with the slave), but it existed, and still exists today, all over the world, and right under our noses.


62 posted on 11/30/2008 6:54:39 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: Star Traveler

I’m not arguing your point. I’m arguing the slant the media gives on one they like versus one they don’t.


63 posted on 11/30/2008 6:55:45 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: Vendome
I have a friend who is from Johannesburg, South Africa and White.

I seem to recall a big stink being made a couple of years ago about a new U.S. citizen from S.A. who checked African American on a job application.

64 posted on 11/30/2008 6:55:51 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Truth Defender

Nobody was calling themselves African-American until the MSM broadcast ROOTS.


65 posted on 11/30/2008 6:57:44 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: UCANSEE2
Is he being regarded as BLACK, or black?

If his politics were conservative his blackness would not count, any more than Justice Clarence Thomas (who we all know, is not authentically black).

66 posted on 11/30/2008 7:01:06 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: weegee

67 posted on 11/30/2008 7:03:29 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: napscoordinator
Thank God the North had the sense to fix the travesty.

The north got filthy rich off the importation of slaves, even after importation was outlawed. So don't go there.

68 posted on 11/30/2008 7:05:54 AM PST by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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To: Vendome; Truth Defender

I think the only person (aside from your friend which I think that is sooooo funny) who actually has a right to be called “African-American” is Oboobie! As much as I can’t stand the Marxist snot-rag or his fugly wife, his mom was American - (didn’t act like it - but was American), and his father - or whom we believe to be his father is from Africa (yes the continent, I know) so I guess we can call him, African-American.

I refuse to call the blacks in the US “African-Americans” because if you were here for generations, how could you still be African, and I also hate the term “blacks”. But if we ARE going to play those games I officially denounce my caucasionship and want a new “name”. I am not white because I am not an albino. I am PEACH, darnit, PEACH I tell you. I want a box that I can mark that says PEACH!!!

And if we really want to go “there”, I also want to be called English-Croation-Welsh-Irish-Maltese-Scotish-Italian-French-American! And just because the US Government really ticked me off with a “mandatory Census Paperwork under penalty of law” 30 plus page of nonsense to fill out last month - thats what I put myself down as on it!!! Hope they had fun figuring that one out!


69 posted on 11/30/2008 7:14:33 AM PST by HomeschoolMomma (No thanks...I already have a Messiah!)
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To: Star Traveler
I'm with you. I was born and raised in the South. Even all through my school years in the 1950s and 1960s, it was all about slavery. War started because ALL southerners had slaves and north wanted to get rid of slavery. NO MENTION of the states rights issues. It was always about slavery. Even in college in the early 1970s, it was about slavery. All I know is my daddy and mama came from very, very humble back grounds, way out in the country on a farm, and I have visited my dad's old home place, and YES, they had to walk three miles to the main highway just too catch a bus to school. Probably not snowing, but certainly cold in the winters. I know that they never owned any slaves. My dad was a welder by profession and my mom a house wife and later after I was gone (I was the youngest), she went to work in a local grocery store just to have something too do during the days while dad was at work. Weren't no slaves around our house. So, that ALL southerners having slaves was pure yankee B.S. My dad and mom and their families worked those farm fields. My dad said that during the depression, they did not know there was one, because they were poor country folks anyway. But, they had food because they grew it, fished and hunted it, and raised chickens, cows, horses, etc. So, they had the ability to take care of themselves.
70 posted on 11/30/2008 7:15:18 AM PST by RetiredArmy (NOTE TO REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS: PLAY THE CONSERVATIVE CARD!!!)
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To: Born In America

There are plenty of biracial Freepers who would shake their heads at your analogy. I won’t tell you what to post, but did you ever think that an attitude like yours is what’s fronted by liberals as the attitude of the Republican Party?


71 posted on 11/30/2008 7:19:21 AM PST by voiceinthewind
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To: sarasota
He will remain black until he reneges on his give aways to his brethren.
72 posted on 11/30/2008 7:23:07 AM PST by ronnie raygun ( When CHANGE comes let me know, I'll put my tin foil hat on and sit in front of myTV)
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To: Nick Thimmesch

I think a case could be made that America has NOT elected a “Black” President, and never will, since it is clear Obama is NOT black, and only calls himself Black because he can’t resist playing the race card in those political poker sessions where one can go “no limit” on the rhetoric.
Listen to the endless string of cliches insisting we’ve turned an important corner historically by electing this “black man” President, and you hear a lot of whistling in the dark, a lot of the “methinks they protest too much” syndrome.
It could be said that the conceit he himself holds, and all his supporters feel about him, only betrays their profound hypocrisy. What happens when a REAL black aspires to high political office? He is subject to a high-tech lynching, like Clarence Thomas. Thomas is a true black, and looks black, Obama is some mulatto/Asian/African/Arab abstraction who served perfectly to mirror our cultural confusion in the early 21st Century. Everyone will find out soon enough that he is nothing but an entirely conventional leftwing politician with nothing new to offer, nothing new at all.
And yeah, his actual personal lineage is 50% white, as you said, making Obama someone “who passed for black”, to turn around the old 50s movie title.


73 posted on 11/30/2008 7:30:19 AM PST by supremedoctrine ('Time is the school in which we learn that time is the fire in which we burn"--Delmore Schwartz)
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To: HomeschoolMomma

I have taken to telling people I am Celtic-Gaelic-American. I am not so aligned with my Irish, German, Scottish or English history. I like to study them but other than St. Pat day, don’t care.


74 posted on 11/30/2008 7:32:47 AM PST by Vendome
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To: napscoordinator
Obviously your from the South so no use arguing about with a person that was for slavery. Over and out.

The words are "you're", a contraction of, "you are". There are also a significant number of other grammatical errors in your post about which you might want to ask your Remedial teacher.

None-the-less, I had thought those with your sentiments had gone the way of the buggy whip.

Hickory Flat, Mississippi.
75 posted on 11/30/2008 7:48:50 AM PST by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: Nick Thimmesch

Today everybody is trying to be anything but white. People claim a minority heritage rather than just plain ol’ vanilla white. (Myself included, I am half American Indian and claim that on all my important papers).

We should be calling ourselves the human race, from America! Then let our reputation, our successes or failures speak for themselves.


76 posted on 11/30/2008 7:49:51 AM PST by senorita
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To: Star Traveler

A great post, Star Traveler.
I would only add that the original “United States”
was in fact dissolved by the secession of the southern states.
Lincoln’s War effectively created, by force of arms,
a new “United States” that was wholly unlike the original.
All the talk about Lincoln “preserving the union” was and is hogwash.
After the events set in motion by the secession of South Carolina it was too late,
at that point, trying to preserve the union was like trying to unhatch an egg.
The union crafted by the “Founding Fathers” was dissolved in 1860.
Those who left that union were then forced to join Lincoln’s new union.
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IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America
We solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are Free and Independent States,
and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace,
contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do.
- - -


77 posted on 11/30/2008 7:50:04 AM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: JimRed

Who does the ‘authentification’ process, cause I haz a complaint!


78 posted on 11/30/2008 8:05:07 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: napscoordinator

“Obviously your from the South so no use arguing about with a person that was for slavery. Over and out.”

That is a false, baiting accusation. Just like we get from the left.


79 posted on 11/30/2008 8:06:04 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: PistolPaknMama
The north got filthy rich off the importation of slaves, even after importation was outlawed. So don't go there.

Yeah, but they were Irish, Italians, and Jews.

80 posted on 11/30/2008 8:06:47 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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