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The Obama Jolt: Is Barack a secret centrist?
Weekly Standard ^ | Nov 28,2008 | Fred Barnes

Posted on 11/29/2008 9:55:36 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: T Lady

Like a previous poster said, I also pray that Obama sees the light, and changes his political philosophy while in office. He would not be the first man to make a complete turnaround in office.


61 posted on 11/29/2008 1:48:23 PM PST by keats5 ("I hope for his sake, Joe Biden got that VP thing in writing."- Rudy)
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To: calex59
No, he is a communist that knows he will be impeached if he tries to implement laws that are to radical and strict.

Wait ... the House will impeach him over the laws they write? How does that work??

62 posted on 11/29/2008 1:49:39 PM PST by MozarkDawg
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To: BlessedBeGod

No, Fred isn’t insane. He is pointing out the fact that Obama has gone centrist in his approach. Not every democrat is a raging commie. Bush might be a Repub and a social con but on matters of finance and free markets he’s far from conservative.


63 posted on 11/29/2008 2:05:27 PM PST by misterrob (Smooth talkers win at singles bars and in politics .. often with similar outcomes for the listener)
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To: whitedog57
No Fred, Obama is a Marxist and wants to get re-elected.

Then you lose the debate.

If you set the options as Marxist or centrist and argue that he's a Marxist, and he doesn't behave like one, people assume he's a centrist, because you set the bar too high, so you're out of the debate at an early stage.

Plus, some of what you're talking about has more in common with Mayor Daley strong-arming than Marxism. Where do you draw the line? Or was Richard J. Daley a Marxist?

64 posted on 11/29/2008 2:06:59 PM PST by x
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To: livius
But Obama doesn’t care

He does care. He'll be watching his numbers very carefully. If they start to dip too low he will act accordingly because he wants 2 terms.

65 posted on 11/29/2008 2:22:18 PM PST by what's up
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To: MozarkDawg
Wait ... the House will impeach him over the laws they write? How does that work??

I hope you are being cute because you sound sort of stupid otherwise. Impeachment would come from his misuse of executive orders and the force of the people to throw him out.

He is going to have to watch his step either way because the far left is already pissed at him

If he tried to start up his "civilian force" and a few other things he claimed he would do with executive orders, people will start to pressure congress, then impeachment will follow or the house members will have to find a new home next election. On top of that, the house and the Senate will have to watch their steps in passing onerous laws, the electorate isn't as far to the left as the dems seem to think. Immigration is one area they will get smeared on, since the vast majority of people do not want amnesty. Use your frickin' head and quit being a jerk.

66 posted on 11/29/2008 2:26:57 PM PST by calex59
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To: Hawthorn
Obama is using these appointments to seem center for morons like Barnes and McCain. He will lirch left as soon as he is in power. Nancy and Harry will push it too.
67 posted on 11/29/2008 3:18:55 PM PST by Pacothecat
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To: T Lady
It must be very sobering....just as it must be quite a reality check every morning to see who's plotting to kill us on a daily basis.

Did you catch Michael Steele filling in for Bill Bennett this week? I've always liked him, but he's comfortable in his own skin. Smart and funny, too.

68 posted on 11/29/2008 3:22:27 PM PST by chiller (I hope he comes to his senses, but fear stealth socialist indoctrination and economics)
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To: chiller
Sobering indeed...it's one thing to run for office and another to actually win.

I'm quite sure there are many Blacks out there, including Barack Obama, who thought he had as much of a chance of winning the White House as snow turning to ice in Hades.

I didn't get to catch Mr. Steele this week at all, since I'd been traveling for the Thanksgiving holiday.

69 posted on 11/29/2008 4:02:41 PM PST by T Lady (The MSM: Pravda West)
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To: what's up

He’ll get as many terms as he wants once he has destroyed the Constitution. Believe me, popularity is not his thing - power is.


70 posted on 11/29/2008 4:06:01 PM PST by livius
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To: SeekAndFind
Fred Barnes.

Weren't you warned NOT to sniff glue with Peggy Noonan?

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71 posted on 11/29/2008 5:06:19 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: livius
popularity is not his thing

Don't agree.

72 posted on 11/29/2008 5:20:14 PM PST by what's up
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To: SeekAndFind

I sense a tingly leg and wishful thinking.


73 posted on 11/29/2008 5:21:24 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: SeekAndFind

74 posted on 11/29/2008 5:46:21 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: livius
The idea that Obama cares what happens to the US is ridiculous. He hates it and wants to destroy it.

God may send so much wrath his way that Obama will be too busy putting out fires to be effective with his agenda, IMHO.

75 posted on 11/29/2008 5:46:59 PM PST by pray4liberty (Always vote for life!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Nor does retired Marine general Jim Jones, who's slated to be Obama's national security adviser. Jones, an Iraq war skeptic, is a strong supporter of offshore drilling and other steps to increase domestic production of oil and gas.

? WTF is Fred Barnes drinking/smoking/snorting/shooting into his veins??

Hussein is not going to support drilling. Since when does the NS Advisor talk about oil drilling?? Not to this guy.

And from what I've heard, this Jim Jones is a real Kool-Aid drinker when it comes to bashing Israel.

76 posted on 11/29/2008 5:50:26 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: whitedog57
Obama said, "We shouldn't worry about the deficit next year or even the year after."

Yeah, IOW he is going to spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, and then when he gets done, he'll consider spending a little more. But only for the essentials...you know, college grants, libraries in Chicago, bike paths in Vermont. Hussein will be willing to cut non-essentials...like, oh, defense, for instance.

77 posted on 11/29/2008 5:53:09 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: T Lady

God bless you; a black conservative woman in California, no less.

I was heartened recently when I went to a gun class; the class was almost entirely white, but there were three young black women there. During discussion time, some of the students expressed disdain at the prospect of BHO coming to office and threatening our 2nd Amendment rights...the young ladies there agreed.

To be young, black and conservative in this environment shows true grit. :)


78 posted on 11/29/2008 5:56:51 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: what's up
It will be a hard pill to swallow for conservatives if they see him stealing their ideas

Not true! I hope he steals them all. Nothing would make me happier than to discover I am wrong in my opinion of Obama.

79 posted on 11/29/2008 6:11:58 PM PST by CharacterCounts (1984 was supposed to be a work of fiction, not a how-to manual.)
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To: BlessedBeGod
Is Fred Barnes insane?

No! He is just doing what many commentators are doing; waiting for the guy too actually take office and implement some policies before he starts his criticism. Every President, save Bush in 2000, gets similar treatment.

80 posted on 11/29/2008 6:21:13 PM PST by CharacterCounts (1984 was supposed to be a work of fiction, not a how-to manual.)
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