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Minnesota Senate Recount, Update IX
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2008/11/022163.php ^

Posted on 11/28/2008 6:26:06 PM PST by newbie2008

ST. PAUL - Hours after the Franken campaign failed to convince the Minnesota State Canvassing Board to intervene on its behalf, Senate President Harry Reid (D-Nev) supported Franken's attorney's statement that they are prepared to take the Minnesota election to the U.S. Senate for a decision.

According to comments published by Talking Points Memo, Franken's lead recount attorney, Marc Elias, said:

"There are a number of ways this can happen, whether it is at the county level, before the state canvassing board, before the courts of Minnesota, or before the United States Senate, we do not know," said Elias -- but they will see to it that every vote is counted."

Later Wednesday afternoon, Reid opened the door for Senate intervention into the Minnesota election processing, saying: "Today's decision by the Minnesota Canvassing Board not to count certain absentee ballots is cause for great concern." Reid made the statement in a release from his official U.S. Senate office.

Coleman Campaign Manager Cullen Sheehan responded:

"This is a stunning admission by the Franken campaign that they are willing to take this process away from Minnesotans if they fail to win the recount. It is even more stunning that the Democratic Senate leader would inject himself into the Minnesota election process. This says that Franken is fully prepared and armed to take this matter to the United States Senate and that the Senate will be receptive - even if Franken fails to succeed in winning the recount. This is a troubling new development. We call upon Al Franken to personally disavow his attorney's comments, and to commit to Minnesotans that he will not allow this election to be overturned by the leadership of the Democratic Senate. Al Franken owes it to the people of this state to reject any and all efforts to stop a Minnesota Senator from being sworn in on January 6th if Norm Coleman continues to be shown to have won this election after the recount."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: coleman; electionussenate; franken; mn2008; stealingelections; votefraud
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To: deport

Ahh...but here is the rub on that, the 1th amendment:

“The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each State shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the State legislatures.

When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of each State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.

This ame...”

Senators have to be directly elected by the people of the state they represent, and it lists the qualifications needed for a Senator, Reid will have a tough time declaring a winner when the 17th amendment states they must be directly elected by the people of the State..


41 posted on 11/28/2008 7:45:57 PM PST by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: billva

We can probably be sure that McNutjob, Linsey Graham and Olympia Snow, among others, are more than prepared to collaborate - I mean cooperate - with Reid and the Dems.

What a load of crap.”

Can I QUOTE you if this ever goes to the Senate???????

There isn’t a position too obsequious McNutjob wouldn’t assume to please the Media and his buddies across the Isle.

If by some Miracle, McNutjob HAD won the election, it would have been thanks to Sarah Palin, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter et al and not to his own efforts. As it is, not even their exceptional efforts could salvage the campaign of this political mediocrity.


42 posted on 11/28/2008 7:47:46 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Lizavetta
Here's how he can run, Article 1, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution:

No person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen.

Doesn't make it right necessarily, but those are the requirements to become U.S. Senator. Now, we can debate all day long about how old the man is, but there's nothing in there that says the inexperienced can't run.
43 posted on 11/28/2008 7:48:37 PM PST by tenger (It's not their money.)
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To: newbie2008
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44 posted on 11/28/2008 7:49:46 PM PST by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: baiamonte

bttt


45 posted on 11/28/2008 7:50:16 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (Cal Thomas.. just another has been with an opinion and an a$$hole...)
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To: rockinqsranch
Democrat Bullying. Shoving their excessive weight around in the Minnesota Political Playground will gain the Democrats one “H” of a backlash. They need to consider if Al Franken is worth it.

Brother [life long resident of MN] tells me his out-laws say they would vote for a "monkey" before a Republican. They don't care how stupid or unqualified the RAT is, it has to be better than a Pubbie. MN deserves Franken, but of course we need Coleman to keep the firewall up.
46 posted on 11/28/2008 7:52:32 PM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: ZULU
Can I QUOTE you if this ever goes to the Senate???????

There isn’t a position too obsequious McNutjob wouldn’t assume to please the Media and his buddies across the Isle.

If by some Miracle, McNutjob HAD won the election, it would have been thanks to Sarah Palin, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter et al and not to his own efforts. As it is, not even their exceptional efforts could salvage the campaign of this political mediocrity.

Yeah you can quote me, your remark was a bunch of crap.

Neither McCain, Grahm or any Republican would validate Harry Reid voting Franken to the Senate if he doesn't win the vote in Minn.

Taking cheap shots like that only makes you look very very very foolish.

47 posted on 11/28/2008 7:54:24 PM PST by billva
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To: deport

This is the correct operative provision of the constitution. Each house can decide “contests” over who is entitled to sit. If you look at any book of congressional biographies, you will see, over the 2 centuries, dozens of cases of “x contested the election of y, and after the house decided in his favor, was seated.” Or, X was elected, and though the seat was contested by Y, the Senate Seated X.”

Sorry, that’s the way it is set up. For example, in 2006, there was a lot of fuss over Flordia 13, and the D attempted to contest the elction of the R because of (false) charges of failed voting machines. The House seated the R, despite a D majority.


48 posted on 11/28/2008 7:54:32 PM PST by BohDaThone
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To: tenger
Agreed that there is no provision that the inexperienced cannot run.

Let us agree, however, that we can give much derision and contempt for those who support the inexperienced, the retarded, and the mental cases who run....and who have support ONLY because their supporters value their vote and not their intelligence, competence, or wisdom.

49 posted on 11/28/2008 7:56:30 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: JohnBovenmyer
It’s just a matter of how much bad PR they are willing to take.

RATS getting bad PR in the zer0bama RAT controlled Congress with a RAT propaganda media machine? Give me a break!!!!!
50 posted on 11/28/2008 7:58:51 PM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: baiamonte
This is the price you pay when the majority of voters are idiots, illegals, and welfare recipients. Better get used to it, they’re the majority now and for years and years to come.

And don't forget .......

“A democracy is always temporary in nature: it simple cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority will always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship.”
51 posted on 11/28/2008 8:02:00 PM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Cheerio

Whooooooooooooboy did I mess that post up!

I failed to emphasize I was supposed to be commenting about the Reid Senate Democrats implying they would impose there power over the State of Minnesota’s electoral processes.

It was a serious error on my part to have left that of my post.


52 posted on 11/28/2008 8:02:13 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will, they ALL have Fairies livin' in their Trees.)
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To: rockinqsranch

huh


53 posted on 11/28/2008 8:05:15 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (Cal Thomas.. just another has been with an opinion and an a$$hole...)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Political Junkie Too:

I think that the Supreme Court would take the case if the Senate or House refused to seat a duly elected official who was not indicted or convicted of a felony.

Otherwise, the Republicans would have a good case to demand that Rep. Jefferson give up his seat, and the Rep. Hastings be ousted because of his impeachment (moral turpitude crime).

Don’t think the Dems want to open that door. Who knows? We might be able to get several Dems ousted as covert Communist Party members who had contact with the KGB and supported their operations. THERE ARE PHOTOS.

No need for the governor to appoint someone else, esp. someone who was not elected.


54 posted on 11/28/2008 8:10:04 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Don’t think the Dems want to open that door.

Why not?

It is a low risk venture for them.

Can you EVER see the Republicans even THINK about looking at such a door, let alone use it?

55 posted on 11/28/2008 8:19:38 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: billva

I think the current group of RINOs in Congress, psrticularly those I specifically mentioned are capable of anything. REMEMBER McCain’s commnets about Hillary - remember his history.

I don’t feel these are “cheap shots” and I think you are rather naive about the way this current group of RINOs operates.

One of the reasons we are in the position we are in now is due to the lack of backbone, guts, and intestinal fortitude among the Republican COngressional delegation and the national Republican leadership.


56 posted on 11/28/2008 8:25:54 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
I think that the Supreme Court would take the case if the Senate or House refused to seat a duly elected official who was not indicted or convicted of a felony.

If MN declares Coleman the winner and Reid refuses to seat him, I think you will see Obama intervene. He will be afraid of a backlash against the RAT party, which would of course be completely deserved.

That will be the end of it. Hapless Harry will then seat Coleman.

57 posted on 11/28/2008 8:35:40 PM PST by freespirited (Honk to indict the MSM for treason.)
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To: mathurine

It is a great country. Why even flaming idiots can become Senators and screw the American people!


58 posted on 11/28/2008 8:37:08 PM PST by pankot
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To: ZULU
I think the current group of RINOs in Congress, psrticularly those I specifically mentioned are capable of anything. REMEMBER McCain’s commnets about Hillary - remember his history.

I don’t feel these are “cheap shots” and I think you are rather naive about the way this current group of RINOs operates.

One of the reasons we are in the position we are in now is due to the lack of backbone, guts, and intestinal fortitude among the Republican COngressional delegation and the national Republican leadership.

They are cheap shots. And if either of us is naive it is you. Your little world is so narrow that if we followed your ideas we would have no more than about 20 - 30 % of the Senate.

The people you mentioned will not abandon Coleman. It might serve your little narrow world to think they would, but they won't.

59 posted on 11/28/2008 8:47:07 PM PST by billva
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To: newbie2008
We call upon Al Franken to personally disavow his attorney's comments, and to commit to Minnesotans that he will not allow this election to be overturned by the leadership of the Democratic Senate.

It ain't happening. The Libs/Dems/Socialists of America have no conscience. They would cut their mother's throat for one more vote. It ain't frickin' happening.
60 posted on 11/28/2008 8:48:17 PM PST by no dems (George W. Bush: America's last White President. ACORN will see to it.)
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