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There's alot of false/misinformation out there. Time to see the original.
Posted on 11/28/2008 2:37:01 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
Who is Eligible to Apply for the Issuance of a Late Birth Certificate in Lieu of a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth?
The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth program was established in 1911, during the territorial era, to register a person born in Hawaii who was one year old or older and whose birth had not been previously registered in Hawaii. The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth Program was terminated in 1972, during the statehood era.
Certified copies of a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth may be requested following the procedures for certified copies of standard birth certificates (see Certified Copies). The eligibility requirements for issuance of a certified copy of a standard birth certificate apply to Certificates of Hawaiian Birth. And the same fees charged for standard birth certificates are charged for Certificates of Hawaiian Birth. Copies of the set of testimony used to establish a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth may also be requested, and an additional fee is charged for each copy of the set of testimony.
Any person to whom a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth has been issued may submit a request to amend an entry, including a legal change of name, on an existing Certificate. A request to amend a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth will, however, be considered to be and treated as an application with the Department of Health for registration of a late certificate of birth in current use, unless a standard birth certificate for that person already exists in the vital records of the Department of Health. Should there be a situation of dual registration, the requested amendment will be made to the standard birth certificate on file if the required documentary evidence in support of the amendment has been submitted and evaluated to be adequate. If there is no standard birth certificate on file, an applicant is required to submit documentary evidence of the birth facts necessary to support of the registration of the late certificate of birth. If approved, the late birth certificate will be registered in place of the Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, which must then be surrendered to the Department of Health.
Since we haven’t seen the original COLB for Obama...we really don’t know the following about him:
**Actual birthdate...Is is really Aug. 4th 1961?
**Father..Is it really Obama Sr.?
Questions about the newspaper birth announcement.:
Why is it listed in one copy of the newspaper as Osama and another copy of the same newspaper as Obama??
Birth announcement house address has been addressed on the long thread.
It has NOT been associated with the Dunham’s, Ann, or Obama Sr.
A red herring? Perhaps. They absolutely are more examples of the discrepancies associated with Obama Jr.
I have no idea what you are getting at in regard to my post #29.
Did you misread what I said?
I just pointed out that newspapers will print birth information given to them. They don't verify it. It doesn't have to be true or accurate.
Thank you! Were both hospitals existing in 1961? I spent a week in Queen’s in 1969 and it did not seem very new at that time.
How do you know that Barack’s mother and father were not really in Kenya when Obama was born and knowing that one day their son would be elected President of the United States, sent an e-mail to their good buddy Macolm X and asked him to place the Obama Birth Announcement in the Hawaiian newspaper?
Some people have said that Kapiolani was not built until after Jr was born but there is evidence to the contrary. Mark Davis, the actual son of Frank Marshall Davis, was born at Kapiolani in 1950. Perhaps the present hospital was expanded between the time Jr was born and the present. Going to the Kapiolani Medical Center I found this:
“Concerned about the welfare of Hawaii’s mothers and their babies, Queen Kapi’olani opened the Kapi’olani Maternity Home in 1890. From its inception, the hospital has played a vital role in the health of Hawaii’s women and children. “
So in one form or another Kapiolani has been in existence since 1890, first as a maternity home.
The quality is what a copy of a microfiche record would look like.
Rhetorical question I presume..........
I know, it just does not make sense, since we all know that Obama’s real father is Malcolm X.
Fine, and investigating those discrepancies might turn up something interesting, but in the end it probably will not matter what those newspapers say. Obama's birth history will not be established by newspapers. Anyone can announce a birth in a newspaper, and can specify whatever address for the parents that he wants to. The newspaper does not vet the source or verify the birth information. It is inherently unreliable data, made even less reliable after it rendered as Internet images.
What is critical here are the "vault COLB" and the hospital/physician records, or the absence of such documents. I hope that the lawsuits force those documents or their absence to be divulged to the public. As I have said, I hope they verify Obama's claim to be a natural-born citizen. If they do not, things will get ugly.
Yes, what's your point?
The State registrar routinely provided all recent births registered in Hawaii to the newspapers for them to publish.
All the 0bama entry proves is that his birth was registered with the state - we already know that.
It doesn't prove WHERE he was born.
The newspaper entry is meaningless in the grand scheme of things.
I beleive you are incorrect about BO not living at that address.
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081109/NEWS01/811090361/0/NEWS01
The future president’s first boyhood home is still standing on Kalaniana’ole Highway, in the Kuli’ou’ou area between ‘Aina Haina and Hawai’i Kai.
The yellow, four-bedroom, single-story home was built in 1948. Nani Smethurst, who has owned the home since 1979, said the place is essentially the same as it was when it was built, although it has been upgraded and landscaped by Smethurst, who is an architect.
The property also has a 450-square-foot cottage in the back that was built in 1953.
Smethurst said she recently noticed people coming around to peer at her home. Then she began receiving calls from local and Mainland newspapers inquiring about Obama’s first home.
“I didn’t know,” Smethurst said. “And then we got a call from someone saying did you know your home is Barack Obama’s first home. It seems that somebody knew. A lot of people, when passing through, would come take a look and maybe take pictures.”
She said someone posted the address on the Internet. That July posting contained a photocopy of what is most likely the first mention of Barack Obama ever published — a tiny, one-line birth notice in the Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961, edition of The Honolulu Advertiser:
“Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Highway, son, Aug. 4.”
It does eliminate the idea his birth was recorded substantially later than his birth date.
Doesn’t matter if he had dual citizenship as well as an adopted allegiance to Indonesia after Soetoro adopted him.
“The Honolulu Advertiser” did NOT research that article before they ran with the story and the birth announcement address! Even Jr himself wrote about the first home his grandparents lived in when they moved to Hawaii. On Pg 39 of his book when he talks about the walking tours the family went on while his father was visiting, he says (paraphrased) “On one of our walking tours I was shown the first house my grandparents lived in when they moved to Hawaii, a house I hadn’t known about, the one before the house on University Avenue.” When Obama Sr was visiting in 1971 he was recuperating from a car accident in which he had injured his leg and was using a cane. It would have been impossible for Sr or Jr to walk 14 miles round trip from the apartment on Beretania St. The paper also doesn’t mention that none of Sr’s friends mentions Ann, they use obscure wording such as “it is possible”, “might have” etc. and they fail to mention Ann not being on the island from August of 1961 until 1963. I actually believe the apartment listed for 1963 was rented for Ann and Jr by her parents upon her return to Hawaii. When she returned to school in the spring of 1963 she moved in with her parents at the “large wooden home at 2277 Kamehameha Ave.” Please also note that the area where the birth announcement house is located is an extremely high priced area beyond the means of a bank employee and a furtniture salesman let alone two “starving students”, especially considering it is within walking distance of the ocean.
Great idea. You write the Swahili and I'll, uh, watch.
I notice that they don't state the records show they lived at the other address.
Who does the records show living there then?
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There's alot of false/misinformation out there. Time to see the original.
Why the hell are we and not the DNC situating his first home?
Does Obama expect US to build his historica legacy?
This is insane.
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