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The scientists have no clue how the cellular machinery guides these DIRECTED mutations, and yet they emphatically rule out Intelligent Design. If ever there was a statement that proves that science has been hijacked by materialist relgion, this is it!
1 posted on 11/25/2008 10:22:42 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Mutation is not evolution.


2 posted on 11/25/2008 10:24:59 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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3 posted on 11/25/2008 10:27:49 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

I want protiens to be used in DIRECTED MUNITIONS.


5 posted on 11/25/2008 10:31:35 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proud author of abstract semi-religious dogmatic hoooey with a decidedly fring feel.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

“Intelligent design” is not and has nothing to do with science.


6 posted on 11/25/2008 10:31:47 AM PST by gracesdad
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To: GodGunsGuts
If ever there was a statement that proves that science has been hijacked by materialist relgion, this is it!

Keep mining those molehills.

8 posted on 11/25/2008 10:33:27 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

“The scientists do not know how the cellular machinery guiding this process may have originated, but they emphatically said it does not buttress the case for intelligent design...”

Anyone else see the absurdity in this statement?

Translation:
“We have no idea how this could have happened, but we must dogmatically deny any possible of intelligent design.”


12 posted on 11/25/2008 10:36:52 AM PST by Elpasser
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To: GodGunsGuts

If you will read the article carefully, it does not say the scientists “emphatically ruled out Intelligent Design.” They said that this particular finding is not supportive.

That said, ID advocates continue to make a farce of their concept by failing to subject their idea to the scientific method. I’ve yet to see them publish an experiment based on a falsifiable hypothesis.

They are all talk. Talk that consists of trying to debunk the other guy does not amount to a scientific theory.


14 posted on 11/25/2008 10:44:09 AM PST by freespirited (Honk to indict the MSM for treason.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

I love it. It simultaneously makes creationists and evolutionists look bad. For evolutionists they now must explain not only the development of functional systems that are adaptive but explain the development of guide processes that can’t be adaptive in the generation they appear.

For the creationists, it takes us one step closer to a way where the evolutionists could be correct about common descent without overthrowing the unique work of a creator.

As a skeptic, its just so fun to watch.


15 posted on 11/25/2008 10:44:26 AM PST by Rippin
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“A team of Princeton University scientists has discovered a tiny signature, a line of letters written out in atoms in the Hebrew language, etched upon a molecule of DNA that lies at the core of all living things. When translated, the nano-script reads ‘Hi! I made this. Then again, I made everything. You can stop wondering now — it was Me all along. Love, Yahweh (aka God)’.

“The scientists do not know how the writing may have originated, but they emphatically said it does not buttress the case for intelligent design, a controversial notion that posits the existence of a creator responsible for complexity in nature...”


18 posted on 11/25/2008 10:57:40 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Is there something in the article that states that 1) this is what you call “directed mutation” and 2) that there is scientific proof of an intelligent designer or creator involved in the process?

You are pretty good at highlighting, so please highlight the specific passages.


19 posted on 11/25/2008 11:01:11 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Der neuen Fuhrer: AKA the Murdering Messiah: Keep your power dry, folks)
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To: GodGunsGuts
You are taken a poorly chosen word out of a news story to make a point that isn't there. This is not some mystical external control over mutation. It's a feedback mechanism. Feedback mechanisms are abundant in nature.

"The work also confirms an idea first floated in an 1858 essay by Alfred Wallace, who along with Charles Darwin co-discovered the theory of evolution. Wallace had suspected that certain systems undergoing natural selection can adjust their evolutionary course in a manner "exactly like that of the centrifugal governor of the steam engine, which checks and corrects any irregularities almost before they become evident." In Wallace's time, the steam engine operating with a centrifugal governor was one of the only examples of what is now referred to as feedback control. Examples abound, however, in modern technology, including cruise control in autos and thermostats in homes and offices."

21 posted on 11/25/2008 11:07:42 AM PST by mlo
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To: GodGunsGuts
This process has been predicted ~ years ago!

It's only logical that a piece of machinery as complex as DNA wound on a spindle would have some super computers around to tell it what to do in case of changed circumstances.

Now, when did DNA get that idea first? I figure at least 1 to the 500th power universes ago.

29 posted on 11/25/2008 11:38:36 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: GodGunsGuts

Even when the so-called “scientists” see, they don’t believe.


38 posted on 11/25/2008 11:54:18 AM PST by Arcy
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To: GodGunsGuts
The problem with evolutionists and creationists is that they see things as mutually exclusive. It is not. Creationism can include evolution. The research done at Princeton doesn't disprove creationism, to the contrary, it actually corroborates it.
First: To take the Bible’s time line literally as to say one day actually means a day is too simplistic. A day may be 100 million years. It actually means stage rather than day.
Second: God is before time and space. Before time and space is called One, not two. Since no time exists and no space exists, God creates everything in an instant, in One point. Everything is a digital design, that has seven stages.
Third: Once God decides to separate into two, the unfurling of time and space and the whole process of creation takes place. It takes billions of years, evolution occurs, similarly to what Darwin postulated, but not exactly. There is one crucial mistake in his theory. Evolution is not by accident! It is by God's plan that was created before separating.
Fourth: The fact that the proteins have the capacity to self improve, is based on the fact that this very thing is planned into evolution, is designed in, and as such is part of the framework of evolution.
57 posted on 11/25/2008 12:09:04 PM PST by Sapin
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To: GodGunsGuts

The “godless” and “materialistic” scientists have made another wonderful discovery about God’s creation. What have the proponents of ignorance accomplished lately?


97 posted on 11/25/2008 1:28:54 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
yet they emphatically rule out Intelligent Design.

Unless these proteins are violating the laws of physics there is no reason to do so.

99 posted on 11/25/2008 1:32:03 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

It is sometimes known as hubris!


163 posted on 11/25/2008 5:05:19 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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