Posted on 11/25/2008 5:48:29 AM PST by jmaroneps37
In April of 2007 the Democrats induced the Freedom of Choice Act (FOCA). This bill is exactly the kind of over-reach Pro Lifers predicted would come about. FOCA would compel all hospitals accepting public funds to provide abortion and birth control services to their patients or lose funding. There would be no exceptions for religious based hospitals. It says Abort or close. The nations Catholic Bishops are studying the close option. Moreover, FOCA would be retroactive. FOCA clearly tells Pro Lifers to shut up and start cutting.
Trouble for Catholic politicians
FOCA is coming back in January. When Catholic Democrats pass FOCA, it will bring about a crisis in the American Roman Catholic Church and American politics as well.
Cannon Law forbids formal cooperation with an evil such as abortion. By their vote, Catholic politicians will place themselves outside of the Church and into a state under which they could no longer receive Holy Communion.
This is the train wreck Barack Obamas Democrats have been trying to avoid by their admittedly centrist appointments thus far. This issue will make one side a winner and one side a loser. The bishops can not back down. The fact that Catholics broke ranks and voted for Obama makes it more, not less, likely that the bishops will excommunicate violators and close Catholic hospitals rather than be forced to provide abortions.
Obama has promised to sign FOCA. The drunk with power Democrats will introduce it. It will be a major turning point in sobering up Catholics and other Pro Lifers who drank Obamas Kool aid. That rank and file Catholics will be pulled into this fight is also inevitable. The moment this bill hits the floor, any honeymoon of good feeling will end and the real fighting will begin. I say bring it on.
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This is THE big Good Vs Evil showdown of our lifetime.
“Freedom of Choice” Act - takes away choice based on conscience
“Fairness Doctrine”- censors conservative discussion only
Why do these draconian laws always have such deceptive names? Howe stupid can sheeple be and for how long?
The rest of us need to MEAN business as well and not back down.
People get what the deserve - conservatives have allowed the rinos to destroy the GOP - we remain silent and vote for the liberal rino out of fear - either we start to act and organize or forget about the elections for the next 20 years.
“This is THE big Good Vs Evil showdown of our lifetime.”
The sign of the times would indicate that there is a far worse one coming.
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
Luk 12:51 Do [you] suppose that I came to give peace on earth? I tell you, not at all, but rather division.
Luk 12:52 For from now on five in one house will be divided: three against two, and two against three.
In the Leftist world, you are always ‘free’ to do what they tell you.
I would think but would have to think it through that the government could not tell a church hospital what to do with respect to issues like this when it involves religious issues. And I suspect this would be a constitutional issue for federal court review. However, sure a government can regulate health standards and minimum training standards for staff and doctors and perhaps mandate an abortion in cases of life or death, but does the fact that a religious hospital accepts federal funds in essence with medicaid/medicare payments and like programs take away any constitutional challenges in federal court? That’s the problem. If they take federal funds, the religious hospital may have a problem.
Abort or close.
Evil.
Just plain evil.
The sign of the times would indicate that there is a far worse one coming.
Agreed!
The rest of us need to MEAN business as well and not back down.
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That includes the doctors and nurses who can tell the politicians to do their own killing.
Thats the problem. If they take federal funds, the religious hospital may have a problem.”
Alynsky and Ayers mantra:
Find something that is “normal” and “everyday” in the USA, and do it to the max until the system breaks down.
Registration of “voters” is one example.
If making this retroactive means that lawyers can sue Catholic hospitals for not performing abortions in the past, the financial toll could dwarf the payouts for sexual abuse victims.
The only hope is that the bishops can put enough pressure on the Catholic Democrats in Congress to allow a conscience exception. It would be a disaster for health care and for people working at Catholic hospitals if they all have to close. Of course the media would be on Obama's side and use it as another stick to bash the Catholic Church with, but maybe the public wouldn't buy that line.
“That includes the doctors and nurses who can tell the politicians to do their own killing.”
Let’s pray that they will find the strength and courage to do just that.
Huh?
How does one bifurcate ones convictions from ones core beliefs? This equates to finding abortion abhorrent, but voting for those who perpetuate it. Still, they see no moral conflict.
Don’t take the federal funds.
As long as you do they call the tunes. Schools do the same thing.
Kick out the feds and you can do what you want.
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