Problem is Americans and the US Constitution no longer matter.
Posted on 11/24/2008 6:36:57 PM PST by rocco55
"TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE" - BIRTH CERT
I am not a lawyer, but I do have some experience with legal matters, plus I had an attorney review this letter before posting it.
In my opinion, Mr. Obama, Jr. and his co-Defendants will delay all of these cases (Berg, Onofrio, Keyes, etc.) as long as possible. Their entire goal is not the arrive at the truth, but simply to make every effort possible to create AS MANY trial delays as they can in the hope that no judgment will be issued by the inauguration date, and then, once their candidate is occupying the office of President, impeachment proceedings would have to be instituted if conclusive evidence is presented that he is Constitutionally unqualified to hold his office. Mr. Berg confirmed on numerous occasions the inevitable barrage of legal obstacles and difficulty that would await the American people and our government should we elect to implement impeachment proceedings for this candidate.
The 12/1/08 reply date for the Defendants in Atty. Berg's lawsuit will simply be a 'motion to dismiss' and they will most likely include an exhaustive list of insufficient evidence items, (inaudible replies of Mr. Obama's grandmother, etc.). The notion that the defendants will have to submit Mr. Obama's birth cert by 12/1/2008 is simply not true. They only have to respond to the Writ by then, and their response will most likely be a motion to dismiss as they did with Atty. Berg's PA suit.
Then Atty. Berg will have to file a response, submit it to the court and then the court has to review Berg's response, etc. For all of this to get conclusively resolved by the Electoral College date deadline of 12/13/2008 is EXTREMELY optimistic.
Also, as Atty. Kreeps (Alan Keye's legal representative) stated, Mr. Obama has three law firms working on these birth certificate lawsuits. Not three attorneys, but THREE ENTIRE FULLY STAFFED law firms ! So, his legal resources are the best (or "best paid" and "best researched") money can buy.
Like many of you, I have hope that "someone" in the Supreme Court Justice System will find at least one of these cases worthy of acceptance and actually issue a judgment requesting a birth certificate from the Defendants ASAP. (before the inauguration on 1/20/2009 or ideally prior to the electoral collage vote on 12/13/208).
My concern is the "source" of the birth certificate. It appears that ALL of these lawsuits are asking Mr. Obama to produce his birth certificate. Why not request that the Supreme Court issue an order to the state of Hawaii to obtain this document.
If the Supreme Court actually steps up the plate and rules in favor of the Plaintiff (Berg, Onofrio, etc.), Obama has two choices.
One, he submits the real BC from Hawaii which will incriminate him because obviously, SOMETHING on that document is inconsistent with his short form image, or two, he submits a fabricated birth cert.
Think about it, as Mr. Farrah said:
"Republican Gov. Linda Lingle's office, which, inexplicably, has fought tooth and nail to protect the birth certificate from public scrutiny even though it remains the key to establishing whether the man elected to be the next president is actually eligible under the Constitution."
Obama has already successfully submitted one fake BC. What if he fakes the 2nd ? Can Obama's staff of three law firms keep the state of Hawaii in a state of non-compliance and not release "their version" of his birth certificate ? Mr. Obama has succeeded in keeping ALL of his college records unavailable. Can Hawaii be prohibited from issuing his birth cert to ANYONE ? including the Supreme Court ?
Can anyone out there state with absolute legal certainty that the state of Hawaii MUST comply with an order from the Supreme Court to release the secret document ?
Can Obama's attorneys object to or appeal a decision like that ? And if so, how long can they tie this up ?
Additionally once Mr. Obama releases a copy of his cert (real or fabricated), how long will it take to ascertain its authenticity ? Will forensic evaluation commence immediately upon the receipt of such a document ? Will testimony be forthcoming ? How long will it take for the courts to arrive at the truth about the veracity of the document Mr. Obama presents, in the event he is required by the Supreme Court to produce it ?
This is a lot to accomplish by 1/20/2009 and my position is that the Obama staff will make EVERY conceivable attempt to throw up ANY and EVERY legal road block they can to delay all of these proceedings.
Unfortunately for us, the TRUTH SEEKING LAW-ABIDING American people who believe in the validity of our Constitution are up against Obama's legal resources ( OJ to the 10th power !). Truly a formidable undertaking for us all ! ! ! !
My prayer is that one of these cases, somehow, gets an expedited decision and they issue a court order for copies of the birth cert from BOTH Mr. Obama AND the state of Hawaii with no consideration given to objections and / or appeals on behalf of the Defendants due to a "time is of the essence" circumstance. Whether this is too much to expect or not remains to be seen.
Let's go forward keeping each other informed and doing our part to expose this to others of like minds and maybe these posts, petitions, etc. will help us all reach a good desired end !
Problem is Americans and the US Constitution no longer matter.
The only way we’ll get to the birth certificate is if someone breaks into the building where official documents are kept, opens up all the documents where his might be kept and THEN SOUND THE ALARM CALLING ATTENTION TO THE PLACE!
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Not this.
The fact that he is trying so hard to keep his birth certificate a secret is raising the red flag to many.
If he was born in Hawaii, what could be on that certificate to warrant such an expense to keep it out of the public eye.
A different father. No father. Anne really isn’t his mother. What other possible wild story could there be that would be of great significance other than he really wasnt born in Hawaii.
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Even cheap attorneys aren’t cheap and he’s using an army of them to keep his secret.
I am thinking that it would be more of a mandate to Obamanazi to provide it..the state law says it is a private document. If Obamanazi doesn’t provide it then they would have to come up with a repercussion to Obama.
But the guy who argued the case that Leo is quoting says this isn’t going to go anywhere. (poster Billybob on FR)
THat won’t work. they will only claim that the ones that broke in confiscated the “real” cert, and replaced it with a phony to make obama look bad. If the real one really is different than the one displayed on the internet, then the real one is probably already destroyed.
I predict the most that will ever come of these lawsuits to obtain obama’s birth certificate is that the state of hawaii will announce that the “real” cert is missing. All they have is a recent copy, or duplicate.
Then there will be nothing more for anyone to say.
If there was nothing to hide, we would have seen a real raised seal original vault birth certificate by now. However, don’t worry kittens about Obama having to be impeached. The Supreme Court will not let the oath be said if it has any doubt that Obama is not constitutionally qualified. Did you forget who administers the oath?
Clarence Thomas is also secretly p.o.ed about the first Obama 60 Minutes interview when he trashed Thomas. Thomas knows Obama is a fraud and a half-rican at best and probably just a Muzzi in disguise in reality. Remember, he who laughs last laughs best. Remember, the judges on the bench still respect the constitution (we are two votes away from the end of that tradition). They had no qualms about jumping in to protect the process in 2000. This is a far more simple decision. The Federalist implication of the term “natural born” is of particular importance to the court and it has never really been addressed by the court.
In the end, someone has to certify this candidate and if it the court believes that hasn’t been done either by Secretaries of State or the responsible nominating party, then a process has to be mapped our and a test of legitimacy must be enforced...this should interest the court enough to move ahead with one of these cases...the one with the greatest constitutional implications.
This is sorta what they did to Joe the Plumber!! I wish for once the RATS would pay dearly for their actions. FAIR IS FAIR!!
Given that Calero was on the ballot they have to believe that candidates werent properly vetted by the Secretary of State.
But I read an argument somewhere that perhaps they can be on the ballot but they just can’t be voted for by the Electoral college. Calero has been on the ticket before as has someone else not eligible according to Wikipedia.
I never thought of this, but what if barak’s mother went to kenya, not to give birth, but to adopt a half white baby and sneak him back to the states and pretend to be the real mother?
Nah, that’s rediculous.
What if she paid for him would then lets see his pink slip
i’m wondering if there has been any comment from the Calero camp
I think he has the ears of his grandpa.
I don’t think he was born in hawaii and I don’t think we will ever know the truth.
This will be the biggest presidential cover up in recent history..that we know of..I am sure there are others that we don’t.
What’s the big deal Obama? Why won’t you produce a legal birth certificate showing that you were born in the U.S.? I can dig mine out in about 2 minutes, with all the stamps and other legal stuff on it. I live less than 40 miles from where I was born. I can even produce the Doctor who delivered me! As Desi Arnez used to to say: ‘You has a lot of esplaining to do Obama”.
The problem is.... with the money he has, Obama can pay for the very best fake BC in the world...
Now that the election is over wouldn’t a finding that Obama isn’t a citizen just make Joe Biden POTUS? Then he would get to choose his own VP so we would essentially be replacing one nitwit with a different one.
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